Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thacholi Ambadi


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The result was merge to Vadakkan Pattukal. (non-admin closure) buidhe 04:14, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

Thacholi Ambadi

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While adding some refs to Thacholi Othenan, I tried to add some here, and I couldn't find a single reliable work mentioning him (so, likely fails WP:GNG). I also tried a book search for "തച്ചോളി അമ്പാടി" and came with nothing. The linked single ref is difficult to confirm (Google Books suggests there may be a low tier academic journal of sorts? ) but neither the search inside this book on GBooks nor a general one on GScholar does not produce any hits for this subject's name (a bit more digging confirmed there is/was a journal like this: but I couldn't find any digitized archive to access). Particularly the part 'Ambadi' produces 0 hits, as the search for 'Thacholi' (family/clan/tribe name?) does produce some. Likewise, search for 'Meppayil' yelds no hits in that book. If it is not a WP:HOAX, it needs better references that would at least confirm such a figure exists in real folklore and is discussed somewhere. And right now I am failing at confirming this is not a hoax, or at least a fatally mispelled topic. PS. Search for Kadathanadan Ambadi just produces info about the flm where he is a fictional character, with no indication that he is a real folklore character. So right now my conclusion is that this is a half-hoax - a non-notable fictional character portrayed here as a real folklore figure. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 12:09, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here  12:09, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   09:51, 15 February 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Merge or redirect to Vadakkan Pattukal, along with Aromal Chekavar. Per the interwiki links, this doesn't appear to be a hoax, but at the same time there doesn't appear to be enough material to justify a spinout article. – sgeureka t•c 08:32, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment, quite certain it is not a WP:HOAX but rather a popular folklore. There's a film based on it, Kadathanadan Ambadi as well.  Tayi Arajakate  Talk 15:50, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Barkeep49 (talk) 01:24, 26 February 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment It's not a WP:HOAX but a popular folklore in Kerala, whom I heard a lot about from my grandfather. However, I don't think it will stand the Wikipedia's requirements of notability as nothing much available about him on the internet. The9Man  &#124; (talk) 06:04, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Offline sources (books etc.) would be acceptable too, if anyone could find some. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 12:19, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge A simple reading already provide a suitable merge-candidate: Vadakkan Pattukal. The Banner  <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 10:15, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, gidonb (talk) 13:06, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge into Vadakkan Pattukal. The father should also be merged. I started the correct procedure. gidonb (talk) 23:03, 10 March 2020 (UTC)


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