Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/That '70s Show (Trivia)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was Keep. Yanksox 17:08, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

That '70s Show (Trivia)
I have nominated this article because of the use of the word "trivia", which is defined by wiktionary as insignificant trifles of little importance, especially items of unimportant information. This puts the article in direct conflict with my understanding of the following Wikipedia guidelines:


 * 1) Articles title assumes that the information therin is trivial, violating NPOV
 * 2) If we are to assume that the articles information is indeed trivial then it is violating Imporance.
 * 3) Finally being that a trivia list is inherintly a list of random facts, this article is in violation of What Wikipedia is not.

Some or all of the information in this artile may be good however, it should be integrated into proper places within established articles. For advice on how this may be accomplished you might want to look at: Trivia and User:GK/On adding trivia to the main body of an article. The_stuart 17:48, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge and delete per nom. Caveat lector 18:58, 25 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep - I think that it's fun, and certainly notable enough for most wikipedians who search for it. - Richardcavell 23:23, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per my cruft example. T  e  k e  00:08, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep - Way too long to merge with main article. I have to take issue with two of the nom's main points.  The word trivia is well established in describing relatively unimportant aspects of pop culture, so I do not think it is POV.  Trivia is not listed under Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information because it is not a list of loosely associated information - it is very much associated with the main topic.  As to importance, well, the nom makes a valid point, but for a popular show like this, it is acceptable to have relativly unimportant facts in their own article (again, one that is as long as this).  --Joelmills 01:40, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep Trivia can be notable. --MarsRover 04:26, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Since it doesn't seem possible to merge with main article due to size constraints, keep per User:Joelmills. Angus McLellan (Talk) 13:28, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep - It's rediculous if you think this information doen't belong in wikipedia because of some technicality that doesn't even apply to this article. It might be a good idea to merge the page if there were only a handfull of trivia items, but this is a huge amount of information and could not possibly be merged with the article. --Glaze 17:29, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep - It's my belief that Wikipedia's rules are a guide, not hard-and-fast rules for which she would get lost in their minutiae. The trivia page is too big to be incorporated into the main article but it is the kind of interesting sub-article that people looking for information on That '70s Show might like to read. This isn't a print encyclopedia where we're worried about space, so an article like this that offers an interested reader more in-depth information that they might not find elsewhere is something that should stay. DetectiveFork 19:10, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep - Delete this and you'll have to get rid of the vast amounts of useless Star Wars, Star Trek, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, (etc, etc) information which so many people have wasted so much of their time on. It might as well stay (besides, I want to read it). - Rik
 * Keep - The article is far too long to incorporate into the main article, and editing it to fit would not do the main article justice. It isn't causing any harm by being separate, and is very informative besides. --Mike 07:40, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep- We shouldn't delete something like this because of a few technicalities. This article is damn well informative and should be kept for people to peruse. Besides, it's too long to merge with the main article. Candidates for deletion should be articles on esoteric topics, and "That '70s Show" is definitely not little-known. If everyone in here is too concerned about such trivial (pun unintended) details, then the simplest way to fix the problem is to change the title of the article. --User:Inviktos
 * Keep! Please! - This is way too long to merge back into the main article. The main article was a mess when most of this stuff was part of the article. Separating this material into a separate trivia page helped clean up the article for That 70s Show. If you read the Wikipedia:Trivia article, you'll see that while Wikipedia policy is not to promote trivia, it does not ban it. Obviously plenty of people feel that the That 70s Show trivia meets the qualification for being interesting enough to keep. Wryspy 08:35, 29 May 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.