Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thatcher Demko


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The result was   no consensus. Looks we have found grey area, and further discussion seems unlikely to yield consensus at this time. Mojo Hand (talk) 03:50, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Thatcher Demko

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Does not meet WP:NHOCKEY. He has been drafted to the NHL but only in the second round. If he plays in the NHL then he should be included, but until then this is a case of WP:NotJustYet. Tchaliburton (talk) 04:04, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep – Nomination fails WP:BEFORE. While this high second round draft pick falls just short of the criteria of NHOCKEY, the subject does however pass WP:GNG as evidenced by the many independent and reliable sources within the article, and the many more reliable sources which can be easily found on-line. Dolovis (talk) 12:44, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fails NHOCKEY; Sources are local coverage, trivial mentions, and a site that I wouldn't consider reliable. Resolute 15:53, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep - Demko passes WP:NHOCKEY. "4. Achieved preeminent honors (all-time top ten career scorer, First Team All-Star, All-American) in a lower minor league, in a major junior league, or in a major collegiate hockey league." Demko was Hockey East Goaltending champion in 2013-14. Mushh94 (talk) 19:56, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * The All-Rookie Team is none of those things, nor is the "Stop it Goaltending Champion". Resolute 22:25, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Question The first reference appears to come from the official NHL website, and has a staff writer's name attached to it. I know Dolovis tends to crank out the stub articles on non-notables, but I am wondering if this kind of attention by the NHL might be a signal that this individual passes the WP:GNG (and if it is NOT that, please clarify for me so that I can better assess such a reference in the future-- thanks!)  KDS 4444  Talk  16:56, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
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 * Delete Does not meet WP:GNG or WP:NHOCKEY. NHOCKEY #4 mentions exactly the things that cause you to meet it. Hockey East Goaltending champion isn't one of those 3. -DJSasso (talk) 12:26, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
 *  Keep. Appears to meet the GNG. Mice never shop (talk) 00:13, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Question On what basis? KDS 4444  Talk  16:56, 2 July 2014 (UTC)


 *  Keep. Meets WP:GNG. Kanoch (talk) 03:34, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Question Where? KDS 4444  Talk  16:56, 2 July 2014 (UTC)


 * More independent and significant articles on the subject  to further confirm he passes GNG. Dolovis (talk) 20:42, 6 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Jay  Jay What did I do? 20:13, 7 July 2014 (UTC)




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