Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thats hot

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was DELETE (13 delete, 4 keep, 1 redirect). A copy of the text and a request have been left on Talk:Paris Hilton to merge anything salvagable into Paris Hilton. Mgm|(talk) 13:17, Feb 14, 2005 (UTC)

Thats hot
Not encyclopedic, and I very much doubt that the phrase originated with Paris Hilton. Delete.-gadfium 05:41, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC) This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.
 * Well, she did try to copyright the phrase, just like Donald Trump tried to copyright "You're fired", but the term is hardly notable, and I have a suspicion that it's past its shelf life, anyway. Delete.  RickK 06:44, Feb 3, 2005 (UTC)
 * Strong BJAODN. Samaritan 07:01, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Mikkalai 07:21, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC).
 * Delete Just because some celebrity tries to copyright a phrase that's existed for well over 100 years doesn't mean we need to be a forum for his or her inane ideas (unless it hits the public radar).Zantastik 08:04, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Redirect with a short note on Paris Hilton's page. Beta_M talk, |contrib ( &Euml;-Mail )
 * Delete Non-notable. Repressed apostrophes everywhere, unite! --Plek 11:58, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. If she really did try to copyright it, then a short note may well be appropriate on Paris Hilton.  I don't think a redirect is, though.  (Besides, missing apostrophes make my eyes bleed.) &mdash;Korath (Talk) 21:33, Feb 3, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, no redirect. I don't even this this is worth mentioning in Paris Hilton but if someone else does, preserve attribution by copy-paste please.  Rossami (talk) 00:37, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, article as it stands is un-encyclopaedic. Megan1967 01:24, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not notable. JoaoRicardo 05:15, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. I'm sorry to say this but you are all mistaken. Paris Hilton didn't invent this phrase, but she did trademark it. I think she deserves recognition as this popular phrase's owner. LeeJacksonKing 15:47, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Anybody who makes a product or who provides a service, or who is planning to do so, can register a trademark for about $50 per category.  If the product fits in multiple categories, or you want to use the same trademark on several different products in different categories, you can pay for multiple categories. If Paris Hilton has registered the phrase "That's Hot" as a trademark for some line of products that she is planning to market, so what?    It doesn't mean she owns the phrase, and she'll lose her rights to the trademark if she doesn't market products in the registered categories by some defined date. If she owns the rights to market "That's Hot" brand lipstick (for example), that does not prevent you from registering and using the phrase for your "That's Hot" line of corn flakes (unless she registered that also, and actually markets corn flakes under that brand).  It certainly does not mean that you have to pay Paris anything when you use the phrase "That's Hot" in writing or conversation.  None of this makes the phrase, or her association with it, notable enough for a general encyclopedia. --BM 02:05, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * BM, you are WRONG. It says Paris Hilton is going to use the trademark on clothes and accessories . More important, however, is the use of "that's hot" in everyday conversation. LeeJacksonKing 15:08, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Are you an expert on trademark law? I'm not either, but I think I probably know more about it than you do.   Paris Hilton cannot possibly have trademarked the use of the phrase in everyday conversation, and if she has applied for its use as a trademark on clothing and accessories, and paid the fee, that means (a) in order to keep the mark, she has to market clothing and accessories with that trademark before some time limit expires; (b) as long as she has the trademark, nobody else can use the trademark for clothing and accessories; and (c) people can register the trademark for use on other types of products, for example, "That's Hot" brand microwave ovens.   Regarding (c), in rare cases, a trademark owner can prevent people from using the mark, period.   For example, the Coca Cola company can stop you from marketing Coca Cola brand toilet paper, even though they haven't registered the trademark in that category and don't market toilet paper themselves.  But that is pretty rare, takes decades of intensive marketing to establish, and doesn't happen automatically no matter how much marketing is done, especially on "weak" marks, such as "Thats Hot".   Paris Hilton and her "That's Hot" trademark are far from being in that league. --BM 16:52, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fancruft, phrase not worth an article by itself. Wile E. Heresiarch 08:29, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. How ironic, this slogan was the subject of several Saturday Night Live skits last weekend.  GRider\talk 18:48, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep --Spinboy 23:59, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Omar Filini 07:13, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Even if you think it's corny or not, the phrase has indeed become a part of pop culture! -- Judson 22:25, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Thats not cool --Audiovideo 23:38, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)