Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The 1945


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Spartaz Humbug! 02:51, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

The 1945

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Contested CSD A7. Sources are only concert posters, blogs, and trivia. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 11:00, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  —Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 11:04, 20 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment—There are a number of references regarding The 1945's work, these range from newspaper articles to music websites. Notable artists have collaborated with The 1945, including Dire Straits saxophonist Chris White. I'm sure I won't be the only one protesting this article's deletion. Biggleswiki (talk) 11:32, 20 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Weak delete The websites of music labels/festivals etc. don't really qualify as third-party sources, and I can't bring myself to say an article should be kept solely on the strength of coverage in the Wandsworth Grauniad ╟─ Treasury Tag ►  Counsellor of State  ─╢ 13:00, 20 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep The article refers to ten independent third-party sources including the Eve Appeal, Classic Rock Magazine, Wandsworth Guardian, WMMR Music website and CEW UK website. The third party sources may not be The Times or The Guardian, but they are third party sources that support the article's content within the Wikipedia guidelines. Biggleswiki (talk) 14:03, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Referenced sources: Neither of these sources, nor the aggregate of them all, demonstrate compliance with any of the 12 points at WP:BAND. The only acceptable reliable source is the local newspaper, but this does not add up to significant or extensive coverage that supports claims of notability for this 'up coming' group of musicians whose only release is an unlabeled self-production. Any notability of guest musicians is not inherited..Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 16:33, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
 * 1. The 1945 - "The 1945 is an upcoming band from south London"
 * 2. Phonenix Theatre - no mention of the subject
 * 3. Tartan Festival - festival poster, subject not on the bill
 * 4. Hop Farm festival - festival, no mention of the subject
 * 5. Fiber Fib - 4-day festival. Subject a very minor band on e line up for the 2nd day
 * 6. Eve Appeal (charity), static web page with a download link  for  iTunes of a single  written by "newcomer London band The 1945".
 * 7. Classic Rock Magazine e-zine - fleeting mention: Former Dire Straits saxophonist Chris White guests on a new charity single. Titled I Know, it’s been released by London band The 1945 for the women’s (sic) cancer charity The Eve Appeal. -  download at  iTunes
 * 8. CEW - Cosmetic Executive Women (a portal for cosmetics): "On 10th December 2010, a single was released to raise money for The Eve Appeal. The single was written, recorded and produced by The1945, a group of five 18 year guys, who decided to use their gap year to use their music to help prevent a disease that has affected so many families.  They are ambitiously aiming to raise £10,000 for the charity.  Every donation at JustGiving will receive a copy of the single by return."
 * 9. The Eve Appeal: same site, different  page, similar entry
 * 10. The Eve Appeal; same site, different  page, no  mention  of the subject
 * 11. WMMR: looks like a site for small  rdio  station: Former Dire Straits saxophonist Chris White guests on a new charity single.  Titled I Know, it’s been released by London band The 1945 for the women’s cancer charity The Eve Appeal. White also co-produced it.  While this might not be strictly a Classic Rock friendly song, all proceeds go to a good cause.  You download it from http://www.eveappealsingle.com/ (classicrockmagazine.com).å
 * 12. Wandsworth Guardian - a very local weekly  newspaper published by  the Newsquest group for a district  of London, not  to  be even remotely  confused with  the famous top  quality  UK ntional  daily.: article about  a local  band, The 1945.
 * Delete per kudpung's reasoning. Shadowjams (talk) 22:13, 20 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep: Looking at this article, the references need some work-the band members are themselves not referenced, but I do not think the article should be deleted on the basis that the references may not be deemed high profile enough. Individually the references may not constitute notability, but together I think it is achieved. PropertyMike (talk) 14:29, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
 * The whole point of listing these references here and analysing them, is to demonstrate quite clearly that none of them pass at WP:RS. Many of them aren't even sources at all. Neither of these sources, nor the aggregate of them all, demonstrate compliance with any of the 12 points at WP:BAND. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 23:44, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Baseball   Watcher  15:30, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
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