Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The 30 Years War


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to Thirty Years' War. v/r - TP 21:32, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

The 30 Years War

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The band fails to meet ANY of the requirements for notability (see WP:BAND). Wikipedia is not about having pages for every garage band in the world. --ARTEST4ECHO (talk/contribs) 13:11, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete: This article makes no attempt to provide evidence in support of notability, and after trying to find it myself, I can see why. StandardSwan (talk) 13:54, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Redirect to 30 Years War. The band is not notable, as StandardSwan says, but the name is a plausible redirect for the conflict. AlexTiefling (talk) 14:42, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Good point. StandardSwan (talk) 19:47, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

I would not be sad to see this article go. Possibly have it simply redirect to The Fall of Troy Mongeese (talk) 22:00, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
 * delete then redirect to Thirty Years' War-- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:57, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 14:41, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Per the above suggestions, I agree, this page should become a redirect to Thirty Years' War, something completely unrelated to this band.--ARTEST4ECHO (talk/contribs) 18:59, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
 *  Leaning Keep The subject is notable per section six of WP:BAND, despite ARTEST4ECHO's assertion to the contrary, and almost meets section five. I do not currently have time to do deeper research, but they clearly are not 'some random garage band'. At the very least, this should be merged with The Fall of Troy, with the redirect going to Thirty Years' War.143.92.1.33 (talk) 02:09, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Does not pass section 6 5, they are self released eps not albums on an important label. duffbeerforme (talk) 01:40, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * "6. Is an ensemble which contains two or more independently notable musicians, or is a musician who has been a member of two or more independently notable ensembles." You're thinking of section five, which yes, they do fail. 143.92.1.33 (talk) 02:44, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Opps, fixed now. duffbeerforme (talk) 08:35, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Does not pass section 6, The blue linked members' notability relies on their membership of this band so are not independently notable. duffbeerforme (talk) 08:35, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Does pass. Thomas Erak was a member of The Hills Have Eyes and was nominated guitarist of the year in 2007 by Alternative Press. Andrew Forsman's notability is a little harder to track down, but I would say that https://popwreckoning.wordpress.com/2008/05/06/interview-with-andrew-forsman-of-the-fall-of-troy/ and http://www.drummagazine.com/features/post/andrew-forsman-young-prog-warrior/ suggest individual notability for him too.
 * EDIT: Apparently The Hills Have Eyes aren't notable enough to have their own article (though I may do some digging to check for notability, I suspect they may qualify). The Alternative Press Guitarist of the Year nomination still stands. 143.92.1.33 (talk) 1:30, 30 March 2012 (UTC)


 * A sputnikmusic staff review. duffbeerforme (talk) 01:42, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep per band notability discussion above and more sources at . -- Trevj (talk) 11:05, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &mdash;SW&mdash; talk 17:48, 30 March 2012 (UTC)


 * The links provided by Trevj are not useful. The first is not coverage of the band, it is a video aggregator. The second is a copy of this wikipedia article. That site just steals wikipedia articles without attribution and claim ownership of copyright. Compare this with an earlier revision of Post hardcore. duffbeerforme (talk) 04:55, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.