Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The 404 (Podcast)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. -- Cirt (talk) 00:09, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

The 404 (Podcast)

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The 404 was repeatedly deleted and eventually salted. I recently requested the use of it as a redirect to an Ontario highway with the page remaining locked, but it now seems an unlocked redirect has sprung up as an article. Delete as a podcast. Nothing notable to be discussed, resulting in an article that is a essentially a compendium of trivia.  ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ  τ ¢  17:11, 10 July 2010 (UTC) This article sources 9 different independent reliable outlets that discuss the show, thus it covers the significant coverage,reliable, sources, and independent of the subject guidelines stipulated in Wikipedia:Notability. The article also displays "significant independent coverage," as the subject of the article is covered in numerous sources as discussed previously. This article does not serve as self promotion, as it is created independently of the show's hosts and it provides a complete knowledge of all facets of the show. The notability of this article is not temporary because the independent sources have all been posted in differing time periods between 2008-2010. What else is needed? 17:54, 10 July 2010 (UTC) Frebel93 (talk) 20:58, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete The sources listed in the article mostly seem to be affiliated with the subject. Furthermore, all the Ghits I found are either affiliated with the subject, or links to download episodes. RadManCF  &#x2622; open frequency 17:23, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Dont Delete Considering that this group has been featured on Fox News, valleywag, ChannelApa, GoGameFace, and NPR, along with a daily show that has a few thousand listeners, i believe it to be notable. Frebel93 (talk) 17:42, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't Delete I think this article is simply a helpful encyclopedia entry about a show which is rather popular and certainly notable. If you are new to the show, then this article is a good way of becoming familiar with what the show is about. I look at articles as if I were trying to do a report on the subject matter. I think that this article contains relevant information about a notable show, and as such does not deserve to be deleted. -Dychi —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.157.11.219 (talk) 18:23, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:54, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Dont Delete I understand that previous attempts at creating this page were poorly sourced, but this time, it has a majority of outside, independent, reliable sources, and I don't think it should be deleted just because it wasn't properly created before. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Frebel93 (talk • contribs) 19:57, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete: Neither the NPR, nor the Fox News article, mention the podcast, and the others are either blogs, forum posts, or related to the podcast itself. Also, the enormous external links section suggests self-promotion. Fails WP:WEB in several ways. Has no independent reliable sources either, so it also fails WP:RS. --Fbifriday (talk) 20:29, 10 July 2010t (UTC)
 * Dont Delete This podcast is notable because of the variety/notability of the guests it has had, and its large audience. Its hosts have been featured in a variety of different outlets, and the show is known throughout the tech community.The article is not a stub, but a fully fleshed out page, with strong community support. This article shouldn't be deleted because it provides such a rich source of information and it reflects well on Wikipedia as an institution. It is a very well laid out and visually appealing page, that informs the reader on many different levels. This article shows what Wikipedia can be at its best
 * Comment: Frebel93, you do not need to continue updating the page with your opposition to deleting the page, once is plenty, and the fact that you have not signed some of them, it appears that you are attempting to "stuff the ballot box", however, remember, this is not a vote, it is a discussion for consensus, based on guidelines and policy. --Fbifriday (talk) 21:00, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment You should also be aware that notability is not inherited. Just because a podcast has interviewed notable people does not make it notable. RadManCF &#x2622; open frequency 14:07, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Final Post Im not trying to flood this page, but simply trying to represent the don't delete opinion. The reason some of them are unsigned was simple oversight on my part, this will be my last post. I've said all I can, I simply don't want this page to be deleted out of spite, I want the administrators to consider everything when making thier decision. I thank you all for your time and I encourage anyone to contact me with your thoughts Frebel93 (talk) 21:16, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete: The gold standard that I use for a podcast is TWIT. The show hosts and majority of guests are well and can be understood.  This on the other hand reads like a minor sub-sub program (CBS -> CNet -> CNetPodcasts -> The 404).  In addition it seems like most of the content is the Inside Jokes and "Who we've had" sections.  I can only claim knowing 4 or 5 of the people on the Notable Guests list.  In all, I think the reference on the CNet Networks Podcasts says everything that needs to be said. Hasteur (talk) 23:36, 10 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Dont Delete: With all the above said, I think what it comes down to is that wikipedia is a wiki and a resource to the average user such as myself. I am not an avid wikipedia editor and don't have an account, but am an avid reader of wikipedia. This podcast has thousands of listeners like me that would like to be reminded of its hosts or the various guests that have been on the show and to easily click through and find out more about them. I think this page will be beneficial to 404 podcast viewers and listeners. ~ Siavash
 * Everybody has specific interests, but we can't be there for all of them. Trivia such as the guest stars that have appeared are better left to the website for that podcast. -  ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ  τ ¢  17:53, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.