Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The 4th Reich (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to Fourth Reich. Delete and redirect; can be userfied on request.  Sandstein  08:12, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

The 4th Reich
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The topic does not meet the notability guidelines for future films, as filming has not begun. Based on my research, filming was scheduled to begin in April 2010. That has not happened, and based on the previous AFD, the director admitted, "The 4th Reich is infact in full swing with pre-production - a little delayed but still on track for a 2011 release." That was seven months ago. There has been no traction since toward a topic of enduring notability. The previous AFD had no good arguments to keep; one "keep" !vote said to "be lenient on the fellow his first time out" without citing policies or guidelines, and the other "keep" !vote was from the director himself, obviously with a conflict of interest. Userfication was recommended, and I'm fine with that approach; this topic just has no place in the mainspace right now. If filming does begin, and can demonstrate general notability through significant coverage, the article can be recreated. Erik (talk &#124; contribs) 17:41, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  —Erik (talk &#124; contribs) 17:44, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:TOOSOON, just as I opined last August. By a long shot this one in no ways meets the GNG criteria that "might" merit it as an exception to WP:NFF. I am still willing that it be userfied back to its author for continued sourcing toward a possible return.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 04:07, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete and redirect to Fourth Reich. The film should not be at this article title, it should redirect to the concept. 65.95.15.144 (talk) 06:33, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * The article is about a proposed film, and a different topic than what is discussed in the article on the Fourth Reich. I do not think a redirect will serve.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 22:21, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * If the film deserves an article, it would be The 4th Reich (film) (or something more specific, since I think there are other films by that name) since this should redirect to the Fourth Reich article. 65.95.15.144 (talk) 05:13, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

But that was all contingent on a promise that production was beginning last fall. Can we userfy this to the author, who, if I recall correctly, is the aide editing under the director's name? Varlaam (talk) 19:54, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Userfy. I argued strongly for retaining it on the last round when the director's aide had jumped the gun in getting the WP article out of the way.
 * Comment re Erik's observation about "the director himself". We established then that this was not the director himself, but rather this aide or assistant fellow.
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.