Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The 6th of August at the 2008 Summer Olympics


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Delete. Rjd0060 (talk) 03:33, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

2008 Summer Olympics - Day −2

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A page about a specific day at a future Olympics. I don't think so. Strikes me as pure crystalballing nonsense. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:14, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - I disagree with the nom's assertion that it is crystalballing, as the complete Olympic schedule has been released and the order of events can be verified easily. However, Wikipedia is not intended to provide a day-by-day list of events like a TV guide, and therefore this article should be deleted. I'm actually curious as to how the article's creator was intending to display the results of the events, particularly some of the more complicated ones. At least with association football there are just two teams competing and each match ends with a simple scoreline! – PeeJay 19:27, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, fair call. Not necessarily crystal balling but is this a sports almanac?  No.  The Rambling Man (talk) 19:35, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * As I wrote on the article's discussion page: "The idea isn't to record the results for each event here, but to allow reference to the different events per day. Imagine a user wants to know, at some specific time during the Olympics, what events are taking place at that time. how would he do that? You can't expect him to search through all of the event articles...". I've improved the article a bit to make my intention clearer. Almyajid (talk) 10:38, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * To answer the question "Imagine a user wants to know, at some specific time...". That user can go to the main 2008 Summer Olympics page and find the link Olympic Games Competition Schedule. Once the 6th of August is over (in 5 days time), will the user ever need that information in that format again? --Xagent86 (Talk | contribs) 11:34, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete — At WP:WikiProject Olympics, we have never found a need to create per-day articles for Olympic results. We already have two "copies" of results, by sport and event (e.g. Athletics at the 2008 Summer Olympics - Men's 100 metres and by country (e.g. China at the 2008 Summer Olympics). We really don't need a third set of articles!  It may look like a good idea now, but per Recentism, will we really need a distinct article for each day at each Olympic Games to provide "long-term historical perspective"?  I think not.  — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 19:37, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - Per above.RaLo18 (talk with me • my contributions) 19:40, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per Andrws. We don't need a day by day synopsis of the Olympics in this format. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells• Otter chirps • HELP!) 20:15, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per Andrwsc. Doc StrangeMailbox Logbook 20:32, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete of course, but I would encourage the author or authors to explore Wikinews for their enthusiastic efforts!--Paul McDonald (talk) 20:34, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * (Speedy) delete. We don't need the redundancy when we don't even have a hold on the pages we already have! Jared   (t)  &ensp; 20:40, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * One has nothing to do with the other - this is a reference page to the result pages. Almyajid (talk) 10:38, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete. Redundant to the other articles. Might be a good idea to salt similar names (ie The 7th of August at the 2008 Summer Olympics) to save us having to sing this tune a dozen times. 23skidoo (talk) 20:49, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Calm it - no need to speculatively salt. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:51, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * However this could be the attempt to create a series of articles. BTW in response to the comment below, I say it was proper process to bring this to AFD. I don't see the article as one that necessarily justified a speedy. 23skidoo (talk) 03:15, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Please WP:AGF. There's no reason to think otherwise. Moondyne 03:26, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * You are in fact right that this was an attempt to create a series of articles. As suggested, and shot down by me, here on Talk:2008 Summer Olympics, users suggested such pages as an alternative for the calendar table on the article page. Long story short, if we see a problem, we should probably salt, but maybe hold off for now. Jared   (t)  &ensp; 03:28, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't worry. Obviously my intention was to create a series of articles, but the reason I created only one to begin with was to see what people thought. I wouldn't create the rest if the first was deleted... Almyajid (talk) 10:38, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - Rambling Man, you didn't have to bring it here, you could've just speedy deleted it. -- Meldshal  [T]   {C}  20:52, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Under what criteria? He tried to WP:PROD it, but the author objected, so AFD is the next step.  — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 20:56, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Disputed prod plus a good faith editor, so no, I won't quick delete. But thanks for letting me know how you deal with new editors!  The Rambling Man (talk) 21:12, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Punkmorten (talk) 21:05, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete WP is not an events directory. Moondyne 23:39, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per others. This should be snowballed now. Doctorfluffy (robe and wizard hat) 03:33, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per Andrwsc and others. For past Summer Olympics we have pages for each group of sports (Athletics, Cycling...), each event (100m, 200m...) and pages for the medal winning athletes themselves. We don't need pages for each day as well. --Xagent86 (Talk | contribs) 07:44, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Article name changed to the above.
 * Well, I seem to be out-voted. I'd still like a good answer for my question in the article's discussion page. Almyajid (talk) 10:38, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * WP:DELETE is not a voting system, so you still have a chance to put forward your case. We can consider any points/questions you raise here - that is what this deletion discussion page is for. Can you explain what the article provides that can't be found in 2008 Summer Olympics and Football at the 2008 Summer Olympics? --Xagent86 (Talk | contribs) 10:53, 1 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete you're totally crazy, man :-D --necronudist (talk) 11:00, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete I appreciate your enthusiasm Almyajid, but this kind of article has no place in WP. It is overdetailed and redundant.--Latouffedisco (talk) 18:35, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep, it's a perfectly good topic. The Olympics are a hugely notable event, and having an article for each day is a reasonable way of organizing the content, which should be detailed. Everyking (talk) 09:44, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure, and what about 2008 Summer Olympics - Day −2 - Morning? Even more detailed. --necronudist (talk) 09:59, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * If, hypothetically, this article were to become exceptionally long, yes, it would make sense to break the content out further. That's how summary style works. Everyking (talk) 10:14, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete. Redundant - everything here is covered in better detail at Football at the 2008 Summer Olympics - Women's tournament. Nfitz (talk) 00:00, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - I have every confidence that the Olympic coverage can be carried out thoroughly at the discipline by discipline breakdown. It seems as though that any day by day coverage will ultimately be redundant, and historically less useful (as in five, ten years, no one will recall what events happened on what day of the Olympics, so any day by day articles would ultimately be obsolete). matt91486 (talk) 03:04, 5 August 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.