Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Albanians in Medieval Epirus


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete.  Even assuming that it wasn't a copyvio, the consensus here is to delete. Jclemens (talk) 00:49, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

The Albanians in Medieval Epirus

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Delete: Content FORK of Cham Albanians, Despotate of Arta and others. Unreadable, irredeemable, SYNTH and OR disaster. Reads more like a partisan high school essay than an encyclopedia article. --Athenean (talk) 18:12, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Delete: 95% of this article belongs to (most of that is already part of) Despotate of Arta, it makes detailed descriptions of its rulers, diplomatic relations etc., also specific parts belong to Cham Albanians and Principality of Gjirokastër. It's not the first time the specific editor creates a pov fork article []. Moreover the existing article is mainly based on estimations by medieval chronicles (don't meet wp:rs).Alexikoua (talk) 19:40, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Delete: Material already found in other articles in proper form, in example Albania in the Middle Ages.Megistias (talk) 19:56, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Delete, classic POV fork. No need for merge/redirect, as the title (with the wrong article) is not a plausible search term. Block page creator for persistent disruptive fork creation, he was previously warned against doing precisely this (User talk:Guildenrich). Fut.Perf. ☼ 06:50, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Against deletion: The article need some copy editing and some structuring but overall it looks fully referenced. It shows the presence of Albanians as an signified ethnicity in Epirus during Medieval period, and that is an interesting encyclopedic information. I think we have to keep it, but work together to improve it. —Anna Comnena (talk) 14:03, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
 * It seems to me that the issue is not whether the article is referenced, but whether it simply covers the same ground as Cham Albanians, Despotate of Arta, etc., saving us the trouble of tinkering with this. --Paularblaster (talk) 22:07, 5 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I agree with you Paularblaster, however, as I said earlier, this article gives information on a very sensitive period for Albanians and Epirus. It shows that Albanians were present in Epirus during Medieval ages. And that is particularly interesting. On the other hand, the article should be trimmed a bit, repeated material should be removed, all this could go through the discussion page Talk:The Albanians in Medieval Epirus (It could also be called Albanian in Medieval Epirus). —Anna Comnena (talk) 23:26, 5 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete, pick your reasoning: classic POV fork, personal essay, or mix of primary and other sources. Bearian (talk) 23:44, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

i think theres a more serious problem here the whole article is lifted STRAIGHT from 'the ethnic composition of medieval epirus' in 'Imagining frontiers, contesting identities'85.73.218.238 (talk) 17:51, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Comment:Seems the present form of the article is a bad copy of this book [] (for example page 134 is same with the relevant section). We have copyvio issues too, speedy deletion would be more appropriate. Great job, i.p. editor!Alexikoua (talk) 19:13, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Thryduulf (talk) 22:38, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albania-related deletion discussions. Thryduulf (talk) 22:38, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as copyvio.--Yopie (talk) 10:23, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.