Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Amazing Race trivia (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was no consensus. Mailer Diablo 12:43, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

The Amazing Race trivia
I have nominated this article because of the use of the word "trivia", which is defined by wiktionary as insignificant trifles of little importance, especially items of unimportant information. This puts the article in direct conflict with my understanding of the following Wikipedia guidelines:


 * 1) Articles title assumes that the information therin is trivial, violating NPOV
 * 2) If we are to assume that the articles information is indeed trivial then it is violating Imporance.
 * 3) Finally being that a trivia list is inherintly a list of random facts, this article is in violation of What Wikipedia is not.

Some or all of the information in this artile may be good however, it should be integrated into proper places within established articles. For advice on how this may be accomplished you might want to look at: Trivia and User:GK/On adding trivia to the main body of an article. The_stuart 17:48, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge (with discussion) back to the season articles and/or The Amazing Race main article. Some of it is interesting and can be integrated into the season trivia sections or leg descriptions; others, like the relationship lists and parts of the "disaster curse" section, are stretching it a bit and probably can be dumped. BryanG(talk) 18:58, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
 *  Merge and delete per nom. Caveat lector 19:05, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Oppose Keep, if Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information, what, then, is the point of having Trivia on any Wikipedia page? This page was made so that such trivia wouldn't clutter up season articles or the main article, and at the very least the page is organized, and not merely an assorment of random facts. --HansTAR 21:23, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm confused, what do you mean by "oppose"? First it sounds like you want it deleted because of WP:NOT, and then it sounds like you want it kept as it is currently is. Which is it? BryanG(talk) 21:34, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I think HansTAR was trying to say that the trivia shouldn't go on the Amazing Race pages because there is too much and it would create clutter. I believe he is saying the trivia page is where all this trivia belongs to keep the season pages and the main page clean and not having to require a clean-up flag. Is this what you meant HansTAR?TeckWiz 21:59, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, thank you, that's what I was trying to say. I've made myself a little clearer in my vote (I had meant to say that I opposed the deletion of the article).--HansTAR 04:17, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
 * No problem, just wanted to make sure that's what you meant. BryanG(talk) 19:45, 26 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep As HansTAR said, this page reduces clutter on the other race pages. The other pages have enough info. Merging it would make the articles longer than prefered. A lot of the trivia is good and most of it is true and should stay. Like I said, most, so it does need a little clean-up. Also, the reason this page was AFD'd was because it is "The Amazing Race Trivia. So, we could also move this page to a name like "The Amazing Race Facts" or another title suggested by someone else. TeckWiz 20:01, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete as scarily demented content and also non-notable list. Bwithh 23:39, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry. "Scarily demented"?--HansTAR 04:19, 26 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Merge the most valuable information (not the whole thing) into The Amazing Race and redirect there. Note that information such as the list of alliterative teams should not be counted as the most valuable information. --Metropolitan90 06:56, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete all trivia. Pavel Vozenilek 20:01, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge & Delete for reasons already given. DVD+ R/W 20:02, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep The information presented in the article was seperated from the Amazing Race main article to reduce its article size. Merging the information back would not be logical mouselmm 23:14, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep and cleanup. I think that some of the more NN details here can be eliminated or trimmed down. --Madchester 01:44, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok I'm changing my vote from Delete and Merge to just Delete. Mouselmm is right is would be illogical to merge the article back. If anyone wants to create a fan site go ahead! Just don't clog up an encyclopedia with trivia. Caveat lector 02:57, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
 * If I may say this: what may be non-notable and unimportant to some might be perfectly well-fitted in an encyclopedia for others. I, for example, could care less about a list of songs performed on American Idol (which, to me, seems just as "fan-ny" as this article). However, if ever I need to do research for American Idol, I know that good ol' Wikipedia contains just the list I need. Same with Amazing Race trivia. I'm all for changing the title and trimming any completely unnecessary details, but, again, I cite that this is not merely a random assortment of facts, but an organized list in the same manner as that American Idol list. --HansTAR 05:08, 28 May 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.