Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Angry Video Game Nerd (show)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was speedy keep, nom withdrawn with only keep !votes present. Non-admin closure. sh &curren;  y  17:43, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

The Angry Video Game Nerd (show)

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First of all, this is a repost (articles relating to AVGN or James Rolfe have been deleted in many different iterations), secondly its simply not encyclopedic or notable in the scope of Wikipedia Mr Senseless (talk) 14:59, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. The show's popularity has increased dramatically since earlier incarnations of the article. I agree that an article 4 months ago would be premature, now the issue is quite different. Since then, the show has produced (and sold out of) a DVD and been featured on international radio on the Opie and Anthony show. In fact, the show is far more popular now than Chris Crocker - whom also deservingly has an article. The show is known in the United States, Europe and even parts of Asian and India. If you like, I can work on the popularity section to better given references to international interviews, articles, etc.... Mostly, the show is popular in the gaming subculture. Admittedly, mainstream people are not completely familiar with the show, but that is also true of many topics worthy of an article in Wikipedia. I realize that this issue might be a magnet for fanboyism. While I loath Chris Crocker, I agree that he deserves an article. In either case, I am also a great advocate of Wikipedia - not just a "fan". Check my contribution page. Thanks for your time. - DevinCook (talk) 15:17, 12 December 2007 (UTC).
 * Strong Keep on the grounds that this show's notability and verifiability has in fact been established. The AVGN character has been featured on the Opie and Anthony show on XM Radio on more than one occasion. James has also been featured on G4TV, CNN, and Spike TV in the last several months. SashaNein (talk) 15:59, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep. Again, Chris Crocker, another YouTube celebrity, has his own article, so why shouldn't Mr. Rolfe?  He is also connected to the large websites ScrewAttack, a subsidiary of GameTrailers.  I think that proves AVGN's notability. Liscobeck (talk) 16:21, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep. AVGN is a production of ScrewAttack, licenced to GameTrailers.com, which is run by MTV-Viacom. Besides the notability previous voters have mentioned, I feel this is addition info worth adding. Stump (talk) 16:56, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. If everyone under this catagory is deserving of their own article, I think the Angry Video Game Nerd is too. Takuthehedgehog (talk) 17:01, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. Well, that's what I get for being complacent and postponing making an argument against this on the article's talk page, thinking that this wouldn't happen. First, reposts are not black marks. Articles are frequently readded in improved form after circumstances change or new facts come to light, and it's not remarkable for someone to request a deleted page's restoration in his userspace and retool it into an acceptable version. Articles should stand on their own merits instead of those of their previous iterations; there's no reason to do otherwise other than impatience, and one of the things this project definitely is not is in a hurry. I'm currently editing in info about said new merits. (edit conflict) Second, regarding those merits, I've reviewed the sources available for the article and found them an eclectic bunch from different parts of the world, but sufficient. That's the Internet for you. Non-English references are acceptable - as they happen to be vital for articles on things in non-English-speaking countries - with a citation of the original text provided. The Angry Video Game Nerd show has appeared repeatedly on a nation-wide radio show, though that nation was Canada, and has had multiple non-trivial appearances in print, here and in the largest gaming magazine in Poland. There's an assortment of other things, but a separate article is already justified. Now, we still have to get a Swedish editor to translate (or ask one of those who have already said they can) and get a Polish editor to find a copy of that magazine and translate, but those are issues of article improvement; as is loudly and often said, AfD is not cleanup. Nominations for deletion have to be against what an article can become, not what it is at the present moment. --Kizor (talk) 17:47, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm withdrawing my AfD due to WP:SNOW and that even though I don't personally feel that the AVGN or Chris Crocker are encyclopedic, technically this article does pass WP:WEB now. Mr Senseless (talk) 17:34, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you. If you delete a wikipedia article it should be lisanova, or lonelygirl13, or chris crocker. The AVGN has been on the radio, has a sold out DVD, ECT...
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.