Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Anthropoid Operation Memorial


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis (talk) 16:16, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

The Anthropoid Operation Memorial

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I think that this may be so badly put together that it may not be worth trying to recover. Being new, I want to get others opinions first. --AM (Talk to me!) 21:36, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Userfy - From my quick search, I think this is a good article subject for Wikipedia. My suggestions: 1) I would suggest you move it back to your userspace (out of the main space) so you can improve it and get some help with creating it. Everyone started somewhere! 2) One issue, however, is that you reference "our design" - you are not generally supposed to write about subjects with which you are personally connected. 3) Finally, is there a Czech-language version of this article already? —Мандичка YO 😜 21:42, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
 * There is, at cs:Památník Operace Anthropoid. I too think this topic is notable, though off to a messy start. Formatting has been cleaned up. I want to make sure that text of the article is not pulled from another document (perhaps the source of "our design"), as some of the text has a promotional tone to it. Several sources offer in-depth coverage of this monument, among the hundreds that merely show it exists. Crow  Caw  22:06, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
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 * Comment I tidied it up a bit, adding a lede and fixing some terms which appeared oddly-translated, but I couldn't find English-language sources providing much detail on the statue itself (lots on the operation). I suspect reference to Czech-language sources will be needed. In theory this could be merged to Operation Anthropoid (there is obviously overlap) but if the information here can be properly sourced, there's enough for a stand-alone article. I'd say keep, but without knowledge of the Czech sources it's hard to be definitive. Colapeninsula (talk) 08:58, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. Certainly needs a good copyedit, but memorials such as this are usually considered to be notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:05, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Userfy or Weak keep Certainly seems notable, however this is a poor translation to English. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:22, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Merge a summary to Operation Anthropoid. We do not have an article on every war memorial in UK (of which there are 1000s).  I do not see why there should be one on this memorial.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:32, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Merge & Redirect as suggested by . Subject does not appear to have received significant coverage from multiple non-primary reliable sources, therefore failing WP:GNG; however it falls within the scope of the section Operation Anthropoid. Thus as suggested above, a summary of the monument can be included in that section.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 20:49, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment I've done some major surgery to the article because there was a vast amount of 'padding' (and there still is). It helps to be able to 'see the wood for the trees'. One would expect some news coverage of a large, relatively recent public memorial, but with my very limited/non-existent knowledge of Czech news outlets (and using Google) I can't see any. However, this is not just a 'war memorial' but a large public sculpture so I'd be surprised if it was not notable. If no-one can find any reliable sources I wouldn't lose sleep if the memorial was merged and profiled at Operation Anthropoid, as already suggested above. Sionk (talk) 03:02, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep, a notable and important topic, there's enough room to create a stand alone article backed up by reliable sources such as (Lidové noviny),  (Czech Television),  (Deník),  (novinky.cz) etc.  --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 07:08, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep, per the lengthy news coverage uncovered by Vejvančický. Sionk (talk) 17:24, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - in case my above comment was vague. This is huge in Prague, commemorating a significant event. Crow  Caw  22:02, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- RoySmith (talk) 14:28, 6 June 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spirit of Eagle (talk) 03:59, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - changing from userfy based on improvements —Мандичка YO 😜 09:55, 14 June 2015 (UTC)


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