Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Art of Charm (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Black Kite (talk) 20:26, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

The Art of Charm
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Fails WP:CORP. This entity was deleted back in 2010 for WP:SPIP (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/The_Art_of_Charm ). In January 2017, a WP:SPA created this page and the page about its founder, Jordan Harbinger (see https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Art_of_Charm&action=history ). I did a Google News search for the entity and they're just passing mentions or name drops. There's no significant coverage as required by WP:CORP. Also, given the fact that the articles was created by a single purpose account 7 years after it was originally deleted, I'm pretty sure there's some foul play here; especially since the user didn't go through AfC. CerealKillerYum (talk) 12:41, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions. –  TheGridExe  ( talk )  12:46, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Michigan-related deletion discussions. –  TheGridExe  ( talk )  12:46, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete and WP:SALT. Nothing has changed since the last AfD. Exemplo347 (talk) 14:25, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  A  Train talk 11:21, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep per substantial coverage in reliable independent sources such as those cited in the article. For example The Guardian article says:
 * "The Art of Charm podcast can be intimidating. Not just because it’s the work of a lawyer called Jordan Harbinger. Not simply because Jordan has worked out how to weaponise all the many elements of the human personality that go to make up charisma in order to get people to listen to him, be impressed by him or hire him. But mainly because he also has the energy to turn these thoughts into podcasts of frightening intensity. I can’t listen to more than half of the long episodes without having a lie down.
 * His “minisodes” are easier to take. A lot of it is just common sense – today you should text two people you haven’t texted in a while – but by turning everyday niceness into a matter of iron policy he has become a regular Dale Carnegie of the digital dispensation." FloridaArmy (talk) 17:37, 29 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete per nomination. A little more careful examination of the sources cited (or stirred up) reveals the following:
 * The Harvard Business Review gives examples of successful podcast formats, among which it name-drops (once) the Art of Charm (AoC).
 * All the reports with Shaq in them, e.g. USA Today, Business Insider, Forbes (4/2016), etc, are about Shaq's statements on the Earth being flat, and they simply mention that he spoke on AoC.
 * The Time article contains viewpoints on storytelling offered by a bunch of people, including the AoC creator. It's not about AoC.
 * And so on, down the line. -The Gnome (talk) 20:25, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spirit of Eagle (talk) 01:36, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and The Gnome, who does a great job examining the references. Ifnord (talk) 18:19, 6 June 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.