Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Attic Door


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus.  Sandstein  21:10, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

The Attic Door

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Non-notable film, based on lack of any reviews or previews in reliable third-party sources. Also, the article is authored by Theatticdoor, indicating a clear conflict of interest, and it reads like an advertisement. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:11, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

The film is awaiting it's premiere, so it will not been reviewed until that time. The film has received the following press during it's production (note working title A MONSTER IN THE ATTIC):
 * http://www.nightlightpictures.com/Nightlight_Pictures/Press_files/Park%20City%20Record%20-%20Attic.pdf - From Sundance 2008, THE ATTIC DOOR were guest on an official panel.
 * http://www.atmstravelnews.com/viewpressreleases.asp?ClientID=415&RID=1781 - Travel Press Release
 * http://www.nightlightpictures.com/Nightlight_Pictures/Press_files/The%20Salt%20Lake%20Tribune%20-%20A%20Monster%20in%20the%20Attic.pdf - The Salt Lake City Tribune.

Will fix wording to read less like an advertisement. Thanks for your help. Theatticdoor (talk) 15:27, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.   —PC78 (talk) 16:30, 27 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep for now  as I just gave it a major sandblasting few tweaks and go at improvement and sourcing in a few hours. per film mos. Its not the strongest article, but its much prettier.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 00:07, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment The tweaks still haven't addressed the basic flaw that this film doesn't meet WP:NF notability guidelines. Neither the film nor any of the principles have been the subject of any notable third-party press.  The press that has been noted are simple press releases noting that a film had been made.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 00:54, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Naturally not... as i have not begun. Just got home. Should have it improved and sourced in a couple hours.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 06:02, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * The principle actress, Madison Davenport | (IMDB Profile), has been the center of much attention in the media as the costar of Kit Kittredge: An American Girl with Abigail Breslin | New York Times Review, the star of the new indie dramedy Humboldt County | Official Site, and her nomination last year for an | Annie Award (highest honor for animation work).Theatticdoor (talk) 15:11, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Slow down cowboy... she getting attention is nice, and I was able to include a review/interview of her in relation to this film, but her notability does not as strongly reflect back on the film as you may wish, and saying "a notable person was in my film" is not as strong an argument as you might hope (see WP:NOTINHERITED). Its helpful, but the film has to achieve its own notability and the article be sourced accordingly. Take a look... its better now. :)  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 19:36, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * *Haha. Of course I understand having a notable person in the film doesn't qualify as the strongest argument. She is a principle, however, and I did want to respond on the WikiDan61 comment. There are a lot of festivals considering the film and only time will tell where it will premiere. I totally understand if this page needs to come down until that time.Theatticdoor (talk) 03:34, 29 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep the sources found by  Schmidt,  seem to squeak though. It's still pretty marginal which is why the guidelines suggest waiting until release in cases such as this.  Eluchil404 (talk) 20:03, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I had found a source that showed the film has already screned, but the author removed it. I have asked him if the removal was an error or if the source is wrong.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 21:14, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * The source was wrong. The film has not screened at Newburyport Film Festival and is still awaiting it's premiere. The festival is just a fan of the film and put it on their page. Theatticdoor (talk) 03:24, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Delete per nom. The blatant conflict of interest doesn't help much either.--CyberGhostface (talk) 00:53, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Well... I gotta gree with the COI issue... but the author, whoever he is, whatever his connection with the film, and whatever his reason for choosing THAT particular user name, has apparently filed an OTRS ticket about himself and his interests in the film. That aside, now that the article IS Wiki's I have spent some time removing POV, cleaninging up, wikifyng, amd sourcing. Further, on the author's talk page I have encouraged his copy/pasting of the article to a userspace at User:Theatticdoor/sandbox so as to continue working on it in the event that notability is not strengthened before the end of this AfD (hope to see that redlink turn blue). To a closing Admin, in the case that the decision is to delete, i ask that the page be copy/paste to that location if the author has not himself done so. Thank you,  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 04:07, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Copied to sandbox. Thanks for the help :-) Theatticdoor (talk) 05:04, 29 October 2008 (UTC)


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