Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Ballad of Buckethead


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to Monsters & Robots. Redirects can be changed if a merge of these articles into a single Buckethead album is desirable, but thta is an issue beyond the scope of AfD. Redirects preserve the material in history, allowing such decisions to be made later Fritzpoll (talk) 10:33, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

The Ballad of Buckethead

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Article for an individual song that has no indication of notability. didn't chart or win an award. unsourced. This was bundled at Articles for deletion/Somewhere Over the Slaughterhouse (song) but has been moved to it's own afd. Discussion has occurred there. Duffbeerforme (talk) 05:47, 28 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment: The song features high profile guest musicians Les Claypool and Bryan "Brain" Mantia of Primus and was released as a video single to promote Monsters & Robots in 1999. The video clip was made by notable artist Dave McKean, as described in the book The Alchemy of MirrorMask (Published by Collins Design, 2005, ISBN 0060823798, 9780060823795), and got airplay on relevant media (see screenshot). It also was sold on VHS tape. The lyrics deal with Buckethead's fake biography as stated on his official website . The article is clearly in bad shape and the Buckethead Taskforce is willing to change this in short time. Therefore the article has been tagged as "needing immediate atention" even prior to this AfD.-- Avant-garde a clue - hexa  Chord 2  06:48, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  —-- Avant-garde a clue - hexa  Chord 2  19:37, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Monsters and Robots. Doc StrangeMailbox Logbook 20:45, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep, as several new sources have been found since nomination.-- Avant-garde a clue - hexa Chord 2  05:58, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 00:14, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment Looking at the sources, my nomination still stands. With the possible exception of the McKean book none of the new references go beyond trivial coverage of the song. Duffbeerforme (talk) 02:11, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete: trivial 3rd party coverage, non-notable. JamesBurns (talk) 03:22, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Doctorfluffy (robe and wizard hat) 03:59, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't yet have an opinion about whether to keep this, but I do believe that if the consensus is that this shouldn't have its own article, it should be redirected to the album rather than deleted. - Mgm|(talk) 10:00, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment I see that Hexachord redirected the article under discussion at AfD when consensus had not yet been reached, so I reverted that to facilitate discussion. Not that a merge might not have been the right thing to do. I can't judge the actual notability or the significance of the mentions, but I do think combination articles tend to be a good compromise. DGG (talk) 03:12, 7 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment The closing admin should note that several editors have violated WP:ATA, especially the topics WP:JUSTA and WP:PERNOM. -- Avant-garde a clue - hexa Chord 2  22:39, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Reply: the closing admin should not give any weight to the above comment, violating an essay is not of any importance, and e.g. a "per nom" is equally valid to determine consensus if the "nom" is well thought out. If you agree with the opinion of someone else in a discussion, there is no need to repeat that opinion at length or in your own words, just noting that you agree with it is sufficient. Fram (talk) 07:43, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep but I'd strongly suggest a merge of the moderately notable buckethead songs into one article. Hobit (talk) 03:33, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Not enough reliable sources.--Sloane (talk) 23:51, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Could you be more specific about the problems with the sources? Hobit (talk) 17:38, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure, they're not reliable. Wikipedia requires reliable sources. Read up.--Sloane (talk) 04:13, 10 March 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.