Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Barrier between Men and Feminism


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Men and feminism. Opinions are split between merge and delete. Redirect is a compromise, allowing editors to merge any relevant content from the history.  Sandstein  13:52, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

The Barrier between Men and Feminism

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Essay. TheLongTone (talk) 14:49, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete as per above. smileguy91talk - contribs 15:16, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello, this page is a group project for post-secondary students and we are currently working on improving it. We would appreciate any specific feedback on how we can save this article from deletion. Thank you. HelloStarling (talk) 16:42, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Article is an essay, but that isn't in itself a reason to delete. Personally, I would merge this with Men and feminism.  As it is, the two articles approach essentially the same topic area from opposite directions, but they aren't yet large enough to justify being split off from one another.  If kept as it is, the article would need to be moved to Barrier between men and feminism as our article titles guideline says that article titles should be in sentence case (though even that title is a little clunky and I wonder if there isn't a better option). Caeciliusinhorto (talk) 19:01, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Social science-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 01:56, 11 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Merge with Men and feminism. In the future, please vet any new article creation for class projects with the relevant WikiProjects (in this case WikiProject Feminism). They can provide advice on how and where to create new content. Kaldari (talk) 09:51, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete as an unencyclopaedic and essay-like topic. Any useful content could just as easily be placed in men and feminism, which is nowhere near long enough to require a content fork. But I don't see anything worth merging in the current version. Your group would probably find more success editing the existing article rather than creating a new one on a substantially similar topic. I'd also strongly encourage you to read and follow the advice at Student assignments. –&#8239;Joe (talk) 13:34, 11 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Merge- I think I would be better off that "barriers between men and feminisms" with "men and feminism", due to the fact that this article was meant to take greater look into the barriers between men and feminisms...Joshydkz (talk) 22:04, 12 March 2017 (UTC)joshydkz
 * Delete Agree with other comments. Jeff Quinn (talk) 00:10, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. Uh-oh. An essay like title. Lead that does a poor job of defining the topic and talks about Intersectionality, without a reference and without reusng the term later. Then discussion of some polls of unclear relevance, a definition of feminism, popular (according to whom?) theories of what? This seems like a poory written essay. WP:TNT. PS. I have now read other comments and I see this is an educational project, so I will put my instructor hat on (I am a professor of sociology and I ask my students to write Wikipedia content too). Well, I am sorry if the students reading this will feel my review was harsh (welcome to peer review, it does not get better - ever, ask your professor :P), but without repeating myself or others, the topic is poorly defined, fails WP:GNG, and at best few sentences could be merged to some other articles. Your (and by that I mean both the students, but also instructor/wiki ambassadors) main mistake here - was not defining your concept properly, and not reading guidelines like WP:NOTESSAY. Starting with an essay-like title is a big no-no for an encyclopedic title. There are thousands of missing articles on issues related to feminism, but they are encyclopedic topics (theories, etc.), not essays. Kaldari very wisely noted above you should check with WikiProject Feminism, it is active and I am sure within few days someone would have told you you need to change the title. Chosing the right topic is a key. You can look at links of requested or weak articles listed at said WikiProject's front page: Requested_articles/Social_sciences, Category:Stub-Class Feminism articles, Category:Feminism stubs, etc. Or take any feminism/women studies encyclopedia/handbook/etc., look at index and start typing in until you get a no-page result from Wikipedia, and you are good. Wikioedia is an encyclopedia, you need to create encyclopedia topics, not essays. I hope that helps (yes, peer review can be constructive sometimes too, just learn not to get your feelings hurt too much :>). Good luck, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 04:20, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Merge with Men and feminism, as this is just an aspect of that broader article. - Arjayay (talk) 09:25, 14 March 2017 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.