Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Best New Talent Awards


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The result was Delete Eluchil404 18:49, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

The Best New Talent Awards

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One of many "Pay us to participate in our talent show. Agents and Casting Directors might show up!" organizations geared towards stage mothers. Article is strictly advertising copy.Richfife 19:54, 6 August 2007 (UTC) I was a contestant in 2004 and don't understand why all of you are saying such things about this event. It changed my life! There were over 60 Agents, Managers, Casting Directors and Record Companies in attendance, and I got callbacks from 7 of them! I was offered a record deal by Jayson Perry who was with Oak Records at the time. I was being considered by Mozy Mosanko of Jive Records. Ron Harris with Who's Harris Entertainment, who engineered some of Christina Aguilera's first albums, was interested in doing some demo work with me as well as Robert Robinson with Bubba Groove, who gets singers for many of Disney's soundtracks.M2J
 * Delete as blatant advertising. Shalom Hello 21:02, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * speedy delete as blatant advertising, created by a WP:SPA. AllGloryToTheHypnotoad 21:22, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Anyone saying anything bad about this event does not have all their facts! I have personally spoken with many participants in Best New Talent Awards who have gotten their start in the entertainment industry from the contacts they made at this event. I have spoken to people who have gone on to work in television, film and on Broadway because of being seen by agents and casting directors while competing at this event. It is all that is says it is and more! They claim that this single event has changed their life and started their career when they normally could not have done it on their own. I have also personally spoken with agents and managers from the industry who look forward to attending this event every year because they know they will find the new talent and fresh faces they are looking for! (NLE)
 * For the article to stand, you need to prove all of this using reliable sources. Saying "I have spoken..." is meaningless. Sorry. No reliable sources, no article.  - Richfife 01:54, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

See News Story video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn8xS2VfwKk Also http://www.starsearchcasting.com/html/talent_convention.php and http://www.starsearchcasting.com/html/your_agent.php and http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=116247090 (read the About Me section)


 * Sooo... I cut the article way back to things that are encyclopedic.  Here's the thing.  There are now two uninvolved sources for the article:  and .  The first is good, the second seems to satisfy WP:CORP under the "published reports by consumer watchdog organizations" clause, but it seems a bit lame to use as the second source to establish notability.  Thoughts? - Richfife 14:54, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

I understand that the BBB has to be cited, however here's the problem with the statement on the refunds. The BBB is citing Civil Code 1812 which does not apply to this company. How do we fix that? They claim that Best New Talent falls under laws pertaining to Employment Agency, Employment Counseling, and Job Listing Services Act, which it doesn't.


 * You fix that with the BBB, not Wikipedia. - Richfife 21:49, 8 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep, because of the controversy section. Mathmo Talk 04:18, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
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