Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Bigger The God


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Delete. Xoloz (talk) 15:26, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

The Bigger The God

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Non-notable band that that just happened to be playing in the same town as other (notable) bands at the time. Lugnuts 17:08, 1 December 2007 (UTC)


 * They did have a video on "Top of the Pops", played live on "The Big breakfast", had extensive coverage in "Melody Maker" and other national music press. Also played live on Radio 1. Shoebill2 17:47, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I'd be happy to withdraw the nom if you can find any reliable sources for that. Lugnuts 09:40, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

I was in the band so I know these things are true. However, I am unable to prove any of it - Top of the Pops database is not on-line anymore, Melody Maker archives are not on-line. In order to prove it I'd have to scan all the press cuttings and send the videos of TOTP and Big Breakfast etc - it's not really practical! All I can suggest is that you have Google with the name and you'll find many references - I don't know if they would be considered reliable sources for Wikipedia though. Shoebill2 12:14, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

I was in the band, Ah right - you best read Conflict of interest then. Lugnuts 12:21, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

I don't think there is a conflict of interest - if you look at the history you will see that I neither created the article nor contributed to it. I don't know who any of the contributors are either. I only contributed to this page to give you a little more info before you delete it (as invited by the deletion notice) although I hope you can see from my tone that I am not trying to stop you deleting it if you think it appropriate to do so. Shoebill2 14:27, 2 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete for lack of verifiable notability. However, I must stick up for Shoebill2. If he/she did not contribute meaningfully to the page prior to AfD, then COI is not an AfD issue here. People can make some contributions to articles relevant to themselves. See WP:COI. It's a matter of the nature and quantity of contributions. And like Shoebill2 says, people were asked to contribute. (On the other hand, you can't make contributions you can't confirm through external sources, especially not if your knowledge is firsthand because Wikipedia cannot be the first print source for anything. See the policy against making Wikipedia an original printed source.) Wryspy 23:40, 2 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,


 * Delete Fails WP:MUSIC. Twenty Years 15:13, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:MUSIC. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  15:43, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. Their website has evidence that they did receive a sufficient degree of coverage by the music press: Melody Maker, NME, Record Collector. Clearly but unfortunately, online archives for those publications that far back don't exist. Bondegezou (talk) 15:04, 7 December 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.