Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Biscuit Factory


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The result was keep. Sam Walton (talk) 09:20, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

The Biscuit Factory

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Has only received local coverage of questionable independence and/or reliability, with one writer as a possible exception. — swpb T 13:36, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:00, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep: What jumped out at me on this one was that it has been covered by the BBC.  That alone is significant coverage by an independent source, but there is a lot more.  Some links to sources that appear to be reliable coverage and not just tourism sites.  Montanabw (talk) 21:52, 19 September 2016 (UTC):
 * http://www.bbc.co.uk/tyne/culture/2002/11/biscuit_factory.shtml BBC piece
 * http://theculturetrip.com/europe/united-kingdom/england/articles/newcastle-upon-tyne-s-10-best-contemporary-art-galleries/ Listed as one of the 10 best art galleries in the area
 * http://narcmagazine.com/feature-the-biscuit-factory-and-the-art-retail-network-launch-new-app/ magazine article
 * http://www.northeastlifemag.co.uk/out-about/newcastle_art_gallery_the_biscuit_factory_celebrates_its_10th_anniversary_1_1779964 magazine article
 * http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/whats-on/arts-culture-news/walk-through-biscuit-factory-whose-11007712 review of gallery
 * http://www.livingnorth.com/northeast/food-drink/restaurant-review-artisan-biscuit-factory review of in-house restaurant
 * Several of those sources are less than great in various fairly obvious respects:
 * http://theculturetrip.com/europe/united-kingdom/england/articles/newcastle-upon-tyne-s-10-best-contemporary-art-galleries/ - user generated site
 * http://narcmagazine.com/feature-the-biscuit-factory-and-the-art-retail-network-launch-new-app/ - minor RS, not terrible for substance, but free sheet where editorial-advertising separation is thin or nonexistent
 * http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/whats-on/arts-culture-news/walk-through-biscuit-factory-whose-11007712 - local paper, similar editorial separation considerations
 * http://www.livingnorth.com/northeast/food-drink/restaurant-review-artisan-biscuit-factory - review of in-house restaurant adds nothing to considerations of Wikipedia notability
 * These two are pretty good:
 * http://www.bbc.co.uk/tyne/culture/2002/11/biscuit_factory.shtml - this is pretty good
 * http://www.northeastlifemag.co.uk/out-about/newcastle_art_gallery_the_biscuit_factory_celebrates_its_10th_anniversary_1_1779964 - this is pretty good
 * But please don't just throw up a WP:REFBOMB of dubious links like this (and this is something you do far too often), that's two out of six that are apposite to the question - David Gerard (talk) 12:07, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment: I probably sorted through 50 or 60 hits to glean these.  If you agree that at least two are sound by your standards, that's progress.  Montanabw (talk) 23:07, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 15:47, 26 September 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 09:16, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep per sources above. Unless evidence is produced to the contrary. I am disregarding these personal opinions by an editor about sources, unless evidence is provided to substantiate them: "editorial-advertising separation is thin or nonexistent" and "local paper, similar editorial separation considerations". Certainly, the Chronicle is a long established (1858) newspaper. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evening_Chronicle. I have no connection with this article or its subject, but I do know of it. Just passing through wiki when I shouldn't have been... Sockforeditoronwikibreak (talk) 20:13, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

I've just accessed ProQuest online newspaper database. There are 1223 results for the Biscuit Factory. I've looked quickly through the first 100, which are established city/regional papers of repute. Here is some material from three. Obviously it is an important regional centre and that should be adequate for notability.

The Biscuit Factory, the UK's largest arts, craft and design gallery, located in the Ouseburn Valley - Events co-ordinator gets her teeth into gallery, Evening Chronicle [Newcastle-upon-Tyne (UK)] 03 Dec 2015: 5.

''Two leading North East arts venues have crystallised their new working relationship to raise the profile of glass-making in the region. The new partnership between National Glass Centre and Newcastle-based art gallery The Biscuit Factoryaims to support the work of local glass artists and champion the heritage of glass making in the region. ... The Biscuit Factory - the UK's largest art, craft and design gallery - exhibits a range of contemporary glass each season, including ... one of the world's most widely respected glass artists, Peter Layton.'' - Arts venue partnership is a real glass act, Sunderland Echo [Sunderland] 01 Oct 2015.

''as one of the biggest commercial art galleries in the country, it opened in the same year as Baltic Centre for Contemporary Art and was an instant hit, adding to the cultural attractions in the nearby Ouseburn Valley. It used to be said that people disgruntled with the contemporary art on display in Gateshead would find solace at the gallery in Shieldfield. ... The happy truth is that they complement each other in a region where art galleries have never existed in abundance. ... The speciality of The Biscuit Factory is art that people would be able to accommodate in their homes - and would actually want to.'' - A few crumbs to tempt art lovers into Biscuit Factory, The Journal [Newcastle-upon-Tyne (UK)] 30 July 2015: 28.

Sockforeditoronwikibreak (talk) 15:12, 12 October 2016 (UTC)


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