Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Bluehorses


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. In the end of the day, nobody voted delete. Some keeps are week, but there is consensus that the article can somehow be improved.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:34, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

The Bluehorses

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Not a notable band. Article tagged as unsourced since April 2007. No obvious reliable sources out there, no evidence of passing WP:NMUSIC. Mind you, they were one of the best live bands I saw circa 1998-99 and I've got four of their albums .... but that doesn't mean diddly squat. Ritchie333 (talk)  (cont)   20:34, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * You must not be a true fan. They had five albums, dude.--ColonelHenry (talk) 20:56, 5 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep Article needs work certainly, but there are more than enough sources in English newspapers. 35 search results 2001-present in the Worcester News alone (SEE: . Ask User:Madfiddler (Mark Knight) who used to jam with them. You could have spent less time on google finding sources than it took you to put together this ridiculous AFD.--ColonelHenry (talk) 20:56, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment. Here's one source: . --Michig (talk) 21:28, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Wales-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:34, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:34, 6 September 2013 (UTC)


 * The Allmusic source is good - we can use that. I'm a little confused that the biography has no name against it. The Worcester News sources are not so good, as there seem to be multiple repetitions of the same story. I don't know why they didn't come up when I did a news search, but there you go. You would expect maybe a couple of paragraphs in The Guardian (, or The Telegraph, wouldn't you? There's this BBC source here, but that looks self published. I dare say there's more stuff offline, but the problem with band articles, particularly those without chart success somewhere in the world (even Half Man Half Biscuit managed a top 75 hit) then getting sufficient sourcing to pass WP:GNG is a hard sell. And until good sources come to light, we can't in good conscience keep the article while staying within Wikipedia policies. Anyway, as things currently stand I've improved the article a bit and I recommend everyone else does the same. Ritchie333  (talk)  (cont)   08:30, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I've got a feeling the 'dna' part of the BBC website was a bit of a community-sourcing experiment. That link seems to be to a discussion forum in any case so wouldn't be considered a reliable source. I didn't find much beyond the Allmusic bio. --Michig (talk) 18:33, 6 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 01:49, 13 September 2013 (UTC)


 * I am uncertain whether this constitutes a reliable sources, but it does raise a couple of other claims to notability. I don't think MOJO's Album of the Month award (for Dragons Milk and Coal) is a "major award" by any means, nor the Classic Rock Society Best of 2004/5 (the article has it both ways; one is clearly in error) award.  But someone with access to copies of MOJO and/or the publication of the CRS (which has changed names a couple of times; I'm not sure which the relevant title would be at the time) might be able to scare us up a couple of print references. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 16:06, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Weak keep per WP:GNG. 3 consecutive years at Glastonbury, > 1000 UK/Europe shows by 2001, musician brief commentary, unusually fronted by two electric fiddlers, probably the only folk-rock-celtic-heavy-metal-goth band around, included in biog for Jonathan Shorland (Musicians' Union). Band name rather too generic to aid online source searches, but the band does seem to have been noted by multiple sources. -- Trevj (talk) 11:22, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.