Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Bridport Dagger


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. There aren't many arguments to work with; looking at what we have, the discussion does not tend one way or the other. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 02:36, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

The Bridport Dagger

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Not sure of the notability of the band. UtherSRG (talk) 06:16, 6 May 2010 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:58, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  —  Gongshow  Talk 06:25, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * keep - The band are currently releasing singles, recording material, sell out venues in London and appear in a number of London and national music publications. There are also a number of Google web, image and news links showing a decent web presence. Not a huge band perhaps, but notable enough does inclusion given their notoriety in the London music scene. - — Preceding unsigned comment added by Floralteacups (talk • contribs)
 * Delete - despite the duplicate footnotes, there does not seem to be a reliable source to establish notability.--137.122.49.102 (talk) 14:27, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep - Perhaps I have a bias as author of the page, however the intention was to provide a source of information on a band that have a large following in London and the London music press. Maybe it's the case bands of this nature aren't 'notable' to those living thousands of miles away without an interest in this music scene, however is that not to be expected? There are numerous sources of the band's covered by notable publications/brands/radio stations such as BBC 6 Music, Artrocker, NME, I-D Magazine, Ben Sherman, Levi's, Sailor Jerry and the Coda booking agency (who are notable sources if you have an interest in this music), who have been covering their singles, their performances at notable venues alongside notable artists - however not all are incorporated into the page as it felt as though this would be linking for the sake of linking, the links included are only there to back up points made.Claretwiki (talk) 15:01, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. The BBC6 ref is just an inclusion of this band in a tracklisting without further comment--hardly nontrivial coverage.  Other refs include YouTube vids and a MySpace blog (never a good sign).  Our article on Coda Agency would never survive an AfD in its current state, and I wouldn't be shocked if it qualified for a speedy delete (self-ref'd orphaned substub), making me wonder whether that source is notable.  I came here wanting to keep this article, but it's looking more and more like this band just doesn't qualify. Heather (talk) 22:43, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete per WP:MUSIC and per Heather. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  03:15, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions.  -- John Vandenberg (chat) 07:44, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment. Even if it's not appropriate to include the sources mentioned above in the article, it would help to state exactly where the band is covered and what the article said. That might change the outcome on deletion. Chris Neville-Smith (talk) 17:22, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment/Keep Would the BBC6 tracklisting qualify the band for inclusion under point 11 for musicians/groups: "Has been placed in rotation nationally by any major radio network."? The MySpace blog link is a link to a scan of the NME review that was published. The magazine only goes out nationally in print and not online, I could only find an indirect link through an external source. Claretwiki (talk) 11:31, 14 May 2010 (UTC)


 * keep. The band are already mentioned in another Wiki article for the band The Subliminal Girls. It references Bridport Dagger member Arran Goodchild as a member of both bands.Triangle987 (talk) 12:16, 14 May 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Triangle987 (talk • contribs) 12:14, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * That carries no weight in deletion discussions. One source you most definitely can't use for notability claims is other Wikipedia articles, otherwise anyone could have their articles kept by creating several wiki articles referencing each other. Chris Neville-Smith (talk) 16:48, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.