Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Buggy Project

from VfD: A description of a school project. Delete. jni 14:36, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * KEEP What is the harm in this article? Perhaps rename it and link it to a 'buggy project' page, but it is a good record of coursework at this level. In reply to the guy beneath, who seemed shocked that such work could take up 10% of a masters degree, i will clarify. The Bristol-based M.eng in EEE is made up of 120*4 (480) credit points over the course of 4 years. The buggy project is worth 30, and so the figure is actually nearer 6%. It takes up a sizeable chunk of student time and effort, and so this figure is probably justified. More importantly, it is heavily peer-reviewed. In fact, the entire project is an exercise in understanding the more intricate aspects of group dynamics. To satisfy the rest of the requirements for the M.eng, students must complete an arduous individual research project with one of Bristol's world-leading research groups.
 * Delete, non-notable project. [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|(talk)]] 14:41, Oct 9, 2004 (UTC)
 * Comment. Leaning toward delete. But. This is a nice, well-written circumstantial description of engineering coursework that is very typical of engineering-school instruction as of 2004. Oddly enough, I can sort of see this as being valuable if presented in that context. I was quite charmed by a 1903 novel by Owen Wister, Philosophy 4, about a pair of Harvard students circa 1870s. In one place, he reproduces their final exam in philosophy:
 * Here is that paper. You will not be able to answer all the questions probably, but you may be glad to know what such things are like.
 * 1. Thales, Zeno, Parmenides, Heracleitos, Anaxagoras. State briefly the doctrine of each.
 * 2. Phenomenon, noumenon. Discuss these terms. Name their modern descendants.
 * 3. Thought=Being. Assuming this, state the difference, if any, between (1) memory and anticipation; (2) sleep and waking.
 * 10. According to Plato, Locke, Berkeley, where would the sweetness of a honeycomb reside? Where would its shape? its weight? Where do you think these properties reside?
 * I loved that, because I thought it was quite interesting to see how a nineteenth-century Harvard exam was worded.
 * What I'm thinking is that articles about current practice in college instruction might be quite interesting. The physics demonstration with the swinging bowling-ball and the professor's nose: is that eternal? Is it done today? Was it characteristic of the middle of the twentieth century? As of 2004, the exercise where students are asked to design a package to enable the egg to survive undamaged when the packaged tossed it out a high window... everybody knows about it today, but it might be worth mentioning in an article somehow. Dunno, dunno. Just thinking out loud. Don't feel like doing the work myself, that's for sure. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 16:58, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * What I'm thinking is that articles about current practice in college instruction might be quite interesting. The physics demonstration with the swinging bowling-ball and the professor's nose: is that eternal? Is it done today? Was it characteristic of the middle of the twentieth century? As of 2004, the exercise where students are asked to design a package to enable the egg to survive undamaged when the packaged tossed it out a high window... everybody knows about it today, but it might be worth mentioning in an article somehow. Dunno, dunno. Just thinking out loud. Don't feel like doing the work myself, that's for sure. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 16:58, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * Keep. You are confusing someone's implementation of a project, which would be non-notable, and the task description of a project. Mikkalai 18:49, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Is a task description for every homework project notable? I completed several projects like this when studying for MSc in EE. Should I write articles about them here? That would be insane! BTW, I have hard time believing this simple sounding project is counted as 10% of Master's degree, like the article claims! Is that typical in the UK? jni 11:46, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not notable. Common coursework. We don't want articles like Design a simple CPU--Improv 22:08, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Agreed w/ Mikkalai & Dpbsmith. Lots of schools have these projects? Somebody please make the article more generic. Wile E. Heresiarch 22:48, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * You are free to start editing List of examples of typical Electronic Engineering education course projects in 2004 or whatever, just don't name your work as The Buggy Project. This article is inherently non-encyclopedian, how do you generalize from it without a complete rewrite? At very minimum, the title must be changed. jni 11:46, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. I don't see this turning into an appropriate generalized article.  At any rate, this  article doesn't need to stay.  -- WOT 05:06, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * IEEE US region 5 is running a contest with a similar task, and I don't think that's notable either. Delete. -- Cyrius|&#9998; 20:13, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep Cabalamat 21:45, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep --209.94.128.82 18:35, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)

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