Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Bull & Bear


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The result was   redirect to McGill University. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:45, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

The Bull & Bear

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Speedy declined. I can find zero reliable sources indicating notability for this Management Undergraduate Society of McGill University student publication. Delete and merge to McGill_University, where the publication is already mentioned. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:23, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Quebec-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:25, 21 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment I declined the speedy because, unless other sources are found, I felt the article could be replaced with a redirect. However, if zero reliable source coverage (including primary and trivial coverage) really does not exist, what's it doing in the McGill University article? Ritchie333  (talk)  (cont)   20:33, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I should have been clearer: no independent secondary WP:RS can be found about this student publication. There are primary sources: it does exist and I don't have a problem personally with it being mentioned under student organizations, in some form. I should also mention that it doesn't appear to meet the essay WP:NMAGAZINE, either. And a Worldcat search for Bull & Bear seems to turn up an older publication, published in Toronto during the 1970s, indicating this hasn't even been registered with an ISSN number (if I understand correctly). Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:46, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
 * All that is well and good, but non-notable things can be redirected as well as deleted. Ritchie333  (talk)  (cont)   21:02, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm glad it's well and good. I'm in favour of a redirect. Also, I do see one Gnews hit from the McGill Daily directing readers to the Bull & Bear for an opposing viewpoint, here. Not substantial, but independent. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 21:06, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
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 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, L Faraone  23:37, 28 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Merge or Delete Almost no reliable secondary sources can be found. Nwlaw63 (talk) 00:56, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
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