Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Bush Inn


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 21:21, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

The Bush Inn

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Notability issue tagged since 2016. Sources are mentions in guidebooks. The presence of the Pub on the St Hilary, Vale of Glamorgan page could seem enough or be expanded there if necessary. The building is a Grade II Listed building (the lowest rank, for special interest buildings; buildings dating from before 1700 seem easily listed as such...) darthbunk pakt dunf t 22:24, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Wales-related deletion discussions.  WC  Quidditch   &#9742;   &#9998;  22:31, 22 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Comment: There are around 350,000 Grade II listed buildings in the UK. I can see four (including a Red telephone box) from our bedroom window.  This pub may or may not meet GNG but it certainly shouldn't purely because it is listed.  If it was Grade II* or Grade I, that would be a different matter. Black Kite (talk) 22:33, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Indeed; it's sometimes hard to convey to people in other countries—where "historic" status is usually more carefully guarded—just how freely listed building status is handed out in the UK. To put things in perspective, this pub is listed at the same level of historic importance as this fence or these gateposts. The pub may or may not be noteworthy—I don't know enough about the area to judge—but a grade II listing means absolutely nothing in terms of determining notability. &#8209; Iridescent 22:53, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I tend to agree, but the Dutch have managed to pursuade English WP that ALL Rijksmonumenten are individually notable, and there are over 61,000 of them. It's the same with US national & state listings, which in many places automatically include all buildings before dates like 1880. Johnbod (talk) 13:21, 29 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep. Grade II listing certainly does mean something;  it puts the historic significance of the place out there.  Not at all saying that all Grade II's are notable.  But, hmm, look at the photo in the article.  It's in Category:Thatched buildings, which is oddly small as a category.  I think it is better to leave it tagged and encourage development on the historic specifics.  Also, I don't see what is wrong with guidebooks. -- do  ncr  am  23:41, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep per . --Rosiestep (talk) 04:26, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep - This ancient public house is notable as an example given in books of its type of historic building. See here and here, and appears in an inventory of ancient monuments in Glamorganshire here. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:22, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep per keepers. Johnbod (talk) 13:21, 29 May 2017 (UTC)


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