Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Butler Arms Hotel


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. m.o.p 18:35, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

The Butler Arms Hotel

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pure pov original essay, fairly incoherent to boot. Gaijin42 (talk) 15:52, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

The guests were historic, both Irish and English. There are addresses that nobody knew for landlords etc. The setting up of the Congested Districts Board and the 1903 Land Act settled the Land Question. The hotel had the most extraordinary guests in a remote part of Ireland. It shows how well Government policy was followed. I cannot say more on the subject. --Kemiah (talk) 15:57, 1 November 2011 (UTC)


 * I already removed the speedy deletion (which was accidental on my part) and moved it to AFD. You would need to comment there. (there is a link in the template on the article). The issue with the article is that it is an WP:Original Research essay, and does not meet WP:Notability or WP:Verifiability. It is quite possible that notability could be established, based on some of the information you have, but you would need to delete everything you cannot find a source for. I will copy your comment and mine to the AFD.Gaijin42 (talk) 16:34, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 16:48, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 16:49, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

comment the creator is adding quite a few footnotes to the article. I note that they are all referencing the hotels own registry book. Gaijin42 (talk) 18:44, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
 * There are, however, a ton of hits for this on Gnews and Gbooks. I would think that rescuing and improving this article is probably possible. Also note that the creator is a brand new user and is likely unfamiliar with most of our policies. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:45, 1 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep. Researching this subject on the Internet is hampered, not by lack of sources, but by hundreds of specific incidental mentions dating back more than 100 years. 1910 directory for sports fishermen, as an example  While I understand the nominator's concern --- and no, the hotel register is not a reliable independent source --- the results and historical depth convince me that this is a long term, historical subject of the sort that gets an encyclopedia article. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 20:33, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Lot of famous people stayed there, lot of notable history. One of the hundreds of book search results mentions it, and hey, Tiger Woods stayed there.    D r e a m Focus  02:54, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Its WP:Imperfect but very salvageble, a notable location meeting the requirements for WP:GNG. – Phoenix B 1of3 (talk) 18:22, 8 November 2011 (UTC)


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