Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Castle (University Group)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. WjBscribe 12:53, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

The Castle (University Group)

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Potential speedy candidate as patent nonsense WP:OR as admitted by the creator User:Thenewgeneration here. Note there is an edit war on-going between the creator and an anon, be sure to look at a version by the creator. Flyguy649talkcontribs 05:04, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * comment stricken; Upon reexamination, it may not be nonsense, merely unsourced, OR, and not notable. Flyguy649talkcontribs 14:38, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

The above is same user 165.123.196.76 05:23, 9 April 2007 (UTC) — 165.123.196.76 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Creator does not have source to back up what is stated. Article is trying to be shortened but creator keeps opinionated---false--information up there. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 165.123.196.76 (talk • contribs) 05:07, April 9, 2007  (UTC)

Everything that I have written in the article is factual, though if there are specific points to be discussed I am willing to do so. Please state the inaccuracies as specifically as possible. Thenewgeneration 05:44, 9 April 2007 (UTC) — Thenewgeneration (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Delete per WP:ORG. From the source provided in the article, it appears that the Castle is just the building of, and the local nickname of, the university's chapter of Psi Upsilon. However, the only source provided is an article in the university's newspaper, which is not enough media coverage to justify an article about the chapter. Nor does the fact that one episode of a cooking show was taped there qualify as sufficient notability to justify an article. I don't know why this article has been alleged as nonsense, though. --Metropolitan90 07:06, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Nonsense claim removed by nom. See above. Flyguy649talkcontribs 14:38, 9 April 2007 (UTC)


 * If Thenewgeneration is so confident in their belief of this material, I urge them to bring it up in chapter and stop acting like a child hiding behind their internet identity. (This is what I call internet muscles) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 165.123.196.81 (talk • contribs) 15:33, April 9, 2007  (UTC)


 * If the above user would care to invite me to the chapter meeting, I would be more than willing to do so, then I would have even more to wirte about. This is the exact reason this article should not be deleted, those opposed to it are all clearly in the house and are unhappy with what may have been said.  I can list more newspaper references if they are desired, simply allow me a few days to find all of the appropriate ones. Thenewgeneration 17:02, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Please. I have nothing to do with U. PA., or this group. I came across the page on Random Page patrol. Flyguy649talkcontribs 17:21, 9 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Flyboy I am not referring to you as being affiliated, I am referring to the IP 165.123.196.81. Thenewgeneration 17:26, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete: fails WP:ORG, WP:ATT. Even at its unvandalized best, this is just a single-chapter frat without any sourced claim to notability, whatever its longevity.    RGTraynor  17:57, 9 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete per above. KazakhPol 21:13, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

bah, i like it. 128.91.128.104 22:40, 9 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete as per WP:OR or seriously clean up and provide sources. --Tom 23:40, 9 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I have looked online at 'the castle' and have found much of considerable interest. I am not in any way affiliated and I am interested in the article and would even be interested were it longer.  Everyone should take more time to read up properly and professionally before making snap judgments, I expected more out of wikipedia "editors" 128.91.128.104 03:04, 10 April 2007 (UTC) — 128.91.128.104 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Comment: What you should expect here is that Wikipedia has rules and guidelines for what articles merit inclusion. If you have evidence that this article actually meets those guidelines, please present it.    RGTraynor  13:46, 10 April 2007 (UTC)


 * This is obviously a secretive loosely-organized "fraternal" group - the lack of sources bears that out; a completely secret fraternity is normally that - secret (read, non notable). Furthermore the WP:OR admitted to by User:Thenewgeneration here  cinches it.  I almost never call for a speedy, but this probably qualifies as an attack article if the information presented here is indeed incorrect as other editors have indicated.  User:Thenewgeneration maybe trying to conduct some investigative journalism, or he may have other motives, but its clear that the article does not belong here as long as it violates WP:V and WP:OR and doesn't come close to touching WP:ORG.  Strong Speedy Delete - CosmicPenguin (Talk) 03:42, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * DELETE ccwaters 18:23, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.