Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Centre at Salisbury


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. Chick Bowen 19:18, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

The Centre at Salisbury
Commercial promotion of a local business Skysmith 10:42, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. MER-C 12:54, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. I added some references to establish notability. --TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 13:12, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep/Comment I'm usually in favor of keeping malls like this one that are the largest or otherwise major draws in their region (in this case, the Delmarva peninsula.) Though I can't help but think that after looking at the (poorly-written) original version, that the creation of this article was spurred by the recently posted Salisbury Mall photo gallery at labelscar.com, a website which has essays about various malls across North America. It may be interesting to see how many malls without articles now get one after they get a mention on labelscar... Kirjtc2 15:01, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment. Hey, it's Jason from Labelscar. I found this page via the referral traffic to my site. While I have on occasion edited existing mall entries to include my research or added the external link to the specific mall page on the Labelscar site (which is non-commercial), I have never created ANY Wikipedia page from scratch, including mall pages. In this particular case, neither Ross or I have ever even visited this particular mall and it does not (nor will it) contain an external link to Labelscar. The article about the nearby Salisbury Mall was also not written by us or associated with us, nor did we post the external link from that page pointing to our site. Otherwise, my site generally speaks for my opinion: I think that major, enclosed shopping malls are a notable part of an area's local makeup and Wikipedia entries about them are valuable. However this particular entry includes very little information, and unless it is fleshed out further then I do not see much reason to keep it either.--DanAbnrml9 9:01, 18 October 2006
 * Delete Wikipedia is not the Yellow Pages. no claim made for encyclopedic notability Bwithh 18:54, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, per nom and Bwithh. A local newspaper article "establish[s] notability"? --Calton | Talk 06:03, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment. Yes, local newspapers are valid sources. Even a small newspaper does its best to verify facts printed in its news columns. --TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 04:28, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, absolutely nothing in this article establishes or even suggests notability for this mall.--Isotope23 17:18, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment Normally I'm for deleting mall articles under WP:CORP. This one doesn't yet evidence meeting that standard.  What it does have is a source (For Shore, Salisbury serves as shopping central) that could be used to have an encyclopedic article on the effect of the mall on local development.  GRBerry 19:45, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete If we're going by WP:CORP, then it fails on all counts. Even if we take the article in a local/quasi-regional paper as being from a reliable source, then that's one reliable source. -- Kicking222 16:57, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment. I added another reliable source, the Virginian-Pilot, which reported on a December 1995 fatal shooting at the mall. --TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 02:59, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment. Whoever thinks that shopping centers, even this one, aren't notable should thoughtfully reconsider.  While Wikipedia is not the yellow pages, shopping malls are an important piece of our collective history and culture.  Whether you like them or dislike them notwithstanding, they have proven themselves functionally and have a continued following.  In addition, they function more than just systems of utilitarian commerce.  In fact, many people do find them interesting as reflections of their own style of architecture, their varied retail presence, relative locations in our cities, and even their varying physical conditions.  I would argue that in general, shopping mall articles belong in a reference encyclopedia if, for nothing else, to provide an index of these important historical agents of our collective history, our pieces of Americana.  We must continue to be very careful in filtering content so that we don't become an irrelevant collective source of information. .--Rosster 14:04, 19 October 2006
 * Delete I agree with Rosster above, but I conclude that in trying to avoid being an irrelevant collective source of information, one of the viable steps is not listing every shopping mall in the world. No indication that this is a notable mall.  This appears to be hobbycruft, as such it will probably be far happier on a lovingly-tended private web page. - Corporal Tunnel 01:52, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep, verifiable. Alternately, merge with Salisbury, Maryland.  JYolkowski // talk 23:51, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.