Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Charm of Others


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 13:11, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

The Charm of Others

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Non notable film, nothing found in a WP:BEFORE except film database sites and other wikis. PROD declined because of 2 external links that were added, but they are just film summaries from festivals it was played at. They aren't reviews, nor could I find any. I feel that this film fails WP:NFILM. Donaldd23 (talk) 00:05, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Donaldd23 (talk) 00:05, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. Donaldd23 (talk) 00:05, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
 * *Keep  It was selected for three international film festivals, however this doesn't specifically make it notable - I was not able to find any reviews for this film. Deathlibrarian (talk) 04:40, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment 1. "It was selected for three international film festivals," This does not do anything to establish notability. 2. "and the director is relatively well known," Notability is not inherited. WP:NOTINHERITED  3. "No doubt more sources in Japanese." WP:SOURCESMUSTEXIST is not a valid argument in AfD. Donaldd23 (talk) 13:59, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment Ok, I see I was mistaken, I thougth selection for film festicals established notabliity, but that's not specifically mentioned in WP:NFILM - I'm not able to find any reviews for this film, so I'll change my vote.Deathlibrarian (talk) 04:01, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
 * CommentIt has in fact won an award, which makes it notable. Deathlibrarian (talk) 06:38, 5 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Notability is not inherited and a director being well known doesn't establish notability. There is no information about the reliability of Japanese sources, and articles should tend to lean towards English sources if there are such available. — Yours, Berrely  • Talk∕Contribs 18:37, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment I am the creator of the article, and while it has been nominated for a number of international festivals, which would indicate its value, unfortunately apart from that, there is nothing solid to indicate its notability as recognised by WP:NFILM. There are no reviews for it, no commentary on it I can find, it's not of any historical value. It looks like nothing else has been found, so I am happy for it to be deleted. Deathlibrarian (talk) 04:23, 2 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Note: This reference here does in fact contain a review of the film, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 23:05, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep as passes criteria 3 of WP:NFILM for winning a major award, namely the Semi Grand Prix at the PIA Film Festival which is the foremost film festival in Japan, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 23:17, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment Ok, I hadn't noticed that award (and I spent a fair bit of time searching, so thanks) - that just pushes it over the line I guess - winning one award does make it notable under WP:NFILM, So I;ll update the page with that information, and I will change my vote to keep. Thanks  Atlantic306  Deathlibrarian (talk) 06:37, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Barkeep49 (talk) 01:12, 12 October 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The SandDoctor  Talk 06:34, 19 October 2020 (UTC)


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