Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Chinese Language Institute


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The result was Keep. King Jakob  C2 22:22, 17 March 2013 (UTC) (Non-admin closure)

The Chinese Language Institute

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This is a promotional article. It was marked as a starter, the references do not substantiate notability. Kanuk (talk) 08:18, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
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 * Keep - Meets WP:CORPDEPTH per:
 * Vienna brothers start language institute in China. The Washington Post.
 * Let's learn Chinese. China Daily.
 * —Northamerica1000(talk) 09:02, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of China-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:57, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:57, 10 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep - Meets WP:CORPDEPTH:
 * meets Wikipedia's "Deep Coverage" guidelines as multiple independent sources are cited, clearly establishing notability.
 * article is fact-based (all statements well sourced) and non-promotional.
 * CLI is a legitimate educational institution and a relevant academic affiliate of Guangxi Normal University as is clear from major mainstream press coverage as cited.
 * —Thorstan (talk) 17:46, 13 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 16:04, 17 March 2013 (UTC)




 * An analysis of the article's sources does not reveal the basis for Keep or Strong Keep
 * These are the Citations in the Article


 * • ^ a b "Vienna brothers start language institute in China". Washingtonpost.com. Retrieved 2012-09-02.
 * • ^ "Vienna brothers start company in China". fairfaxtimes.com. 2011-02-08. Retrieved 2012-09-02.
 * • ^ "Frommer's Travel Guides". Frommers.com. Retrieved 2012-09-02.
 * • ^ "Virginia Tech Magazine". Vtmagazine.vt.edu. 2011-01-09. Retrieved 2012-09-02.
 * • ^ "GSI China Project; Global Sustainability Initiative; Virginia Tech". Gsi.cnre.vt.edu. Retrieved 2012-09-02.
 * • ^ "Virginia Tech students embrace Chinese culture". CollegiateTimes.com. Retrieved 2012-09-02.
 * • ^ "CLI Chinese Programs". Studycli.org. Retrieved 2012-09-02.
 * • ^ "Dreaming in Chinese". connectionnewspapers.com. Retrieved 2012-12-29.
 * • ^ "Let's learn Chinese". chinadaily.com.cn. Retrieved 2012-12-29.

The reference in the article to the alleged fact that CLI is affiliatd with the Guangxi Normal University is an internal Wikipedia link The Centre for International Culture and Education of that University on its website http://www.cice.gxnu.edu.cn/cice/eng/xyjj.asp does not list any affiliations.
 * 1.	The Washington Post article is a promotional interview article there is no journalistic analysis applied. This is not an independent report. This is someone getting press.
 * 2.	The Fairfax article is practically a duplication of the Washington post article, it is an interview article with no journalistic analysis applied, ditto other comment
 * 3.	This is merely a link to the Frommer’s site no verifiable information
 * 4.	This is an alumni profile, there is no critical review, it is basically several articles about what graduates are doing.
 * 5.	It is 404
 * 6.	The College Times article is another interview type article that merely parrots the founders
 * 7.	This is the Subject’s own website, not independent.
 * 8.	Dreaming Chinese is 404
 * 9.	Yet another Promotional interview article in the China Daily.The reliability of any Chinese business reportage is questionable because many of the reporters work on a for pay (formal or informal) basis.

Item no. 5 is now unavailable 404, When I reviewed that site the article was still live. It only mentioned in passing that one of the CLI company owners was giving them some help or advice. At the time I was of the view that the article did not support the assertion that there was any partnership with Virginia Tech concerning Language Training. The site now says. "The China Sustainability Initiative was started in 2009 to work with partner organizations concerned about environmental conservation, natural resource management, and sustainable development in China. Partners include a growing number of public and private institutions (including CLI)" My recollection of the article previously posed was that CLI would help with student adjustment to the Chinese cultural environment and lend a helping hand where needed. There was nothing about partnering in Language Training, This article does not help the notability of this company.

In short, none of the information is verifiable by any source provided. The media sources are mere interview pieces of no value with regard to Notability of the subject.

Kanuk (talk) 22:02, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
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