Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Citizen (character)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. (Non-administrator closure) NorthAmerica1000 07:31, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

The Citizen (character)

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Original research article on a fictional character in a book CorporateM (Talk) 14:08, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:42, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:42, 2 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete Subject appears to be a minor character in a major literary work. No sources are cited and a Google failed to yield enough to ring the notability bell. The article title is too generic for a redirect. -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:40, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Based on some of the below comments I am withdrawing my delete !vote and moving to Neutral. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:06, 15 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Merge to List of Ulysses characters, delete without redirect per Ad Orientem.  S ven M anguard   Wha?  18:12, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep. Like every character in Ulysses there's plenty of material available for those who wish to find it.  A simple GBooks search for <"The citizen" Ulysses>  turns up bunches of books discussing this character, who is the main candidate to be the "Cyclops" of the story.  The assortment of relevant material is almost daunting, including one entire book on the image of "the citizen" in Joyce.  It's certainly enough to show the notability of the character.  As an editorial matter, we might consider merging this and other articles currently contain very brief character sketches into List of Ulysses characters, but this should be without prejudice to a separate article when more content has been written. (We might consider a rename to The Citizen (Ulysses), which would be a rather more meaningful search term.) --Arxiloxos (talk) 03:34, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep, I'd be wary of the reasoning that this is only a minor character; Ulysses has been pulled apart and examined in such detail by various scholars that even the most minor aspects of the work are more than likely the subject of coverage in multiple reliable sources. In this case, I believe that the sources identified by User:Arxiloxos are probably good enough to justify a stand-alone article.  Lankiveil (speak to me) 01:41, 14 June 2014 (UTC).
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, j⚛e deckertalk 15:55, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 07:51, 23 June 2014 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.