Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Coal Men


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The result was   delete. Mr.Z-man 04:09, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

The Coal Men

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This article has quite a few problems. For one, there is a major COI issue to deal with. I don't know for a fact, but the image uploads are by Jason Colemen, which is very similar to the lead singer Dave Colemen. Also, tie that in with the statements made in the bio section. Some of them seem to be statements that only a person close to the band would know. I didn't find any of the friends statements on any of the sites given. Besides all of that, this article fails WP:RS and WP:MUSIC. No notable label. No major tours. A supposed link to The Lonely Hearts, but it's not certain or sourced. Delete Undead Warrior (talk) 05:18, 2 September 2008 (UTC)


 * delete The CMT page for the band shows regional tour, not national tour. Same with BillBoard Circle Back Records does not appear to be a significant label. Allmusic does not show any charts or awards. No assertion of notability in the article. If someone could show me how they charted on BillBoard, that would be appreciated. Cheers,  Dloh  cierekim  06:26, 2 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep There are many bands out there without chart success or awards that are nonetheless notable. Being on an indie label shouldn't be criteria for deletion, especially with 4 releases. Vrefron (talk) 13:09, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Other bands on Wikipedia that don't meet WP:Music? probably. But I don't see how this one does. Dloh  cierekim  13:49, 2 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:MUSIC. A COI issue by itself is no reason to delete an article, but a COI issue coupled with failing our music guidelines certainly is.  If nobody except the band itself or direct friends/relatives cares to write an article, that says a lot. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  15:00, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - does not appear to pass any item on WP:BAND.-- JediLofty Talk to meFollow me 16:28, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  14:27, 3 September 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.