Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Concrete


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The result was Delete. Keeper  |   76   |   Disclaimer  22:13, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

The Concrete

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Per WP:MUSIC, unreleased albums are not notable unless there has been substantial coverage in reliable sources. Mdsummermsw (talk) 18:46, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment After another editor removed the AfD tag (I've restored it), I went back to find my earlier source saying it was never released. I didn't find it. I did find the source this article is a copyright violation of. It says, in part, "A.D.O.R. was supposed to back up those successes with the completed full-length The Concrete; unfortunately, adversity soon struck. His production and management deals collapsed, and Atlantic decided to shelve the record." As I proded the article and AfDed it, both disputed, I don't think I should list it for a speedy. I will, however, correct the copyvio. - Mdsummermsw (talk) 19:40, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * keep Well it now has substantial coverage from reliable sourcesCosprings (talk) 21:03, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Now it has insubstantial coverage from non-reliable sources:
 * ^ 1 Content: Gives a catalog number and release date (no other info), in apparent conflict with the same site used for cite #4.
 * ^ 2 Coverage: Page not found
 * ^ 3 Coverage: Atlantic shelved the album in 1995. Reliability: Very low. It's a blog reveiwing a later compliation by the artist.
 * ^ 4 Content: "Atlantic decided to shelve the record." because production and management deals fell through. Reliability: Fairly high; allmusic.com is usually very reliable for hard data. Then again, it contradicts itself (see #1).
 * ^ 5 (Repeat of #4.)
 * ^ 6 Content: The album "was never given an official release", reads like a recap of #3. Reliability: Low. It's an on-line record store's album review of a later compliation by the artist.
 * Mdsummermsw (talk) 18:10, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * None of these are blogs, rapreviews and thesituation are well known commercial sites. We do agree it was never released, but it does have substantial coverage.  I fixed the page not foundCosprings (talk) 03:30, 20 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete - this was never actually released, so it's probably not notable. Was there some controversy about it that make it notable? Bearian (talk) 17:50, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - non-notable dead project; could be mentioned briefly in the performer article. -- Orange Mike  |  Talk  20:07, 22 February 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.