Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Corsair (Pensacola State College newspaper)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Pensacola State College. I find many of the keep arguments unconvincing. The fact that an article is still in the process of being written doesn't mean we need to keep it around if the underlying subject isn't found to be notable. There are some claims that there's sufficient sources to satisfy WP:N, but nobody actually listed which ones they are. I know nobody actually suggested a redirect, but it seems like a reasonable middle ground and a WP:ATD, given that the target already mentions the newspaper. The history will still be around, so if anybody wants to merge material, it's still there for them to do so (with proper attribution, of course). -- RoySmith (talk) 23:54, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

The Corsair (Pensacola State College newspaper)

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no evidence of notability, and college newspapers are not ordinarily notable.   DGG' ( talk ) 22:42, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * , I apologize, it may be my oversight, but I don't see any reason for deletion listed on this AfD page, what is your concern? - Navarre0107 (talk) 22:45, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * typo--I fixed it  DGG ( talk ) 05:10, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
 * , I would note that many college newspapers are included on Wikipedia; therefore showing that college newspapers aren't, by nature, unnotable. In addition, from the citations and refs I've found so far, the paper is relatively independently notable for a student newspaper of its size. - Navarre0107 (talk) 05:40, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Other stuff exists - Epinoia (talk) 23:22, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
 * , I understand this rule; however, I was just commenting on the original statement that claimed that college and university newspapers aren’t “ordinarily notable,” not trying to make an independent claim that this is notable because others exist. Sorry, I certainly could have worded that more clearly, I sincerely apologize if I caused any confusion because of this :) - Navarre0107 (talk) 03:48, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

Keep, espically since this article is only just beginning to be made, much more information and more refs can be still be added in order to further show its notability, and the fact that, as of the writing of this comment, no straightforward reason for deletion has been written on this AfD, I see no reason to delete the entire article at this given time. (edit: please note that the latter point of this comment was written before the typo was fixed, meaning that point is now invalid; however, this should not affect the other two points, which should still be valid.) - Navarre0107 (talk) 00:35, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
 * , Thank you for adding your reasoning, I don't entirely agree, as noted by my above comments, though I very much appreciate the clarificaitons :) - Navarre0107 (talk) 05:40, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 06:07, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Journalism-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 06:07, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Journalism-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 06:07, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Move to draftspace, if the editor states that they are just beginning to create the article. – The Grid  ( talk )  20:42, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - WP:STUDENTMEDIA says that student newspapers are to be judged by the same criteria as any other newspaper - no substantial references provided - does not meet WP:NNEWSPAPER which requires reliable sources that write significant commentary about the periodical - the only thing that could save the article is the criterion that the periodical has received a notable award; the article states that the paper and its staff have won awards, but are they "notable" awards? - Epinoia (talk) 17:29, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
 * , per the article, they received two Online Pacemaker Awards from the Associated Collegiate Press, which, according to both that organization’s website and Wikipedia article, is among the highest awards a college or university newspaper in the U.S can receive. This is in addition to the good number of state awards they’ve recived that has gotten relatively good attention from the press. - Navarre0107 (talk) 22:58, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

Keep, I am persuaded by the above argument concerning the notability of the newspaper's awards. It seems there are a number of reliable sources, and that the page is quite substantial. It also is not unusual for a student newspaper to be notable, there is a decent sized category just for student newspapers in Florida https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Student_newspapers_published_in_Florida Mharbert20 (talk) 23:05, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep this college newspaper.Strandvue (talk) 12:01, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Merge to Pensacola State College, per WP:ATD-M, WP: VNOTSUFF and WP:PAGEDECIDE. Even if technically crossing arbitrary notability thresholds, articles like this one rarely become more than defacto mirrors of official websites, loaded with disproportionate coverage of run-of-the-mill stories, fleeting trivia, and name-dropping bonanzas of non-notable writers and editors (trivial pablum like "As of the August 2019 issue, The Corsair has 11 staff writers, with additional members reportedly signing up for the fall of 2019 term" is of encyclopedic use to nobody). The paper can be succinctly and adequately summarized, including all notable awards, in a few paragraphs in the parent organization's article. --Animalparty! (talk) 16:57, 16 September 2019 (UTC)


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