Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Cretan Runner


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The result was   merge to George Psychoundakis. Merge any significant content not already included at George Psychoundakis into that article. j⚛e deckertalk 00:24, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

The Cretan Runner

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I came across this when it was PRODed and did some searching, but was ultimately unable to find any in-depth coverage of this book specifically. Most of the coverage I did find talked about the book heavily in relation to its author, George Psychoundakis. There are a few brief mentions here and there, but ultimately I wasn't able to find where this really passes WP:NBOOK and wouldn't be best served as a redirect to Psychoundakis's article. I had redirected the article, but that was challenged on the basis of WP:CHANCE, but the article has gone largely ignored since its creation in 2009. I'm bringing it to AfD to get more eyes on it to see if there was anything that I missed to potentially save the article. I do think that the author is notable for an entry, but I'm not seeing where this book is specifically notable outside of him. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   06:50, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
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 * Merge -- Since the book is not that notable on its own, it would probably best be served by merging it into Psychoundakis' article. Constantine  ✍  08:03, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Merge with George Psychoundakis. That will provide the subject with appropriate coverage.  Not independently notable.  Of course the resultant redirect should be kept.  I find it hard to believe that an autobiographical work could be independently notable, distinct from its subject, though no dount there will be exceptions.  Peterkingiron (talk) 11:06, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
 * There are exceptions, but the trouble is that most biographies tend to receive coverage that primarily talks about the person rather than the book. It's kind of a tricky thing, but I have noticed that most of the time the RS for this stuff tends to fall along the lines of either book reviews or controversy raised over things included in the book. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   11:43, 2 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Merge I wasn't able to find any additional reviews. Google scholar has several cites to the book but in my opinion none of them help establish separate notability.  Garamond Lethe  16:12, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Redirect to George Psychoundakis I originally placed the PROD on the article after an inconclusive WP:BEFORE search. The fact that Tokyogirl79 couldn't find anything means it does not exist on the face of the earth as she's proven before to me. The article only contains a plot summary and the article already mentions the book including a quote. Redirect under WP:PLOT and WP:SIGCOV. Mkdw talk 22:06, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Weak keep.'. Translated by Patrick Leigh Fermor. Itsmejudith (talk) 21:53, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not certain if the fact that he translated the book makes it inherently notable. He didn't write it and many of his own books do not have articles. Mkdw talk 05:36, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
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