Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Crossing (2011 film)


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The result was   delete. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 13:56, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

The Crossing (2011 film)

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Per WP:NFF. PROD was removed, and not enough sources yet to substantiate notability of the film's pre-production.  SoSaysChappy   (talk)  06:30, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:CRYSTAL--137.122.49.102 (talk) 18:16, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:23, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete without prejudice as too soon.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 03:52, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NFF; production was predicted to begin in July 2009, but it did not happen, and there is no followup indication that it will take place. No problem with recreation if it can be evidenced that filming starts. Erik (talk) 10:55, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
 * but it did not happen is without any reference not a valid argument. IMDBs last update is from October 2009 and it still says that the film will be released in 2011. --Ausgangskontrolle (talk) 20:41, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
 * According to http://foxy-megan.com/ the film is in production. --Ausgangskontrolle (talk) 21:06, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The project could be mentioned at the article for Megan Fox. Also, IMDb always retains pages for projects that are in perpetual development.  The pages do not disappear unless the project is canceled outright.  This does not mean that it is appropriate to have an article about the planned film.  For example, there has been a planned remake of Fahrenheit 451 since 2003; see this old IMDb page.  IMDb just keeps updating the release year, but we still see no film to write about.  There are many, many projects that do not make it to production. Erik (talk) 22:52, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Your example is nonsense. Contrary to your intention it even shows that IMDB does not contain very outdated informations. Your link points to web.archive.org and shows a planned film for 2005 with informations from 2003. It looks like the film is even not released yet, and the actual IMDB shows now no informations about this film. So this is a good example to verify that IMDB even removes outdated informations. --Ausgangskontrolle (talk) 06:59, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The remake's current page is here, with the release year marked for 2012. IMDb wrote 2005 as the estimated release year, but it pushes the release year back as long as the project remains in development and nobody from the studio declares a specific release date.  So a release year like "2011" is just an estimate on IMDb's part; it basically means that there is no actually declared release year for The Crossing.  The Fahrenheit 451 remake is just one example of how IMDb uses a release year placeholder.  Like I said, you will never see a page without a release year.  WP:NFF is the threshold because we know for sure a film will result.  Given time, The Crossing's IMDb page will become "in development" like the remake or be deleted entirely.  Depends on if someone is keeping the project on life support.  There is nothing to write about this project except that it was announced one time and that nothing actually happened. Erik (talk) 18:59, 21 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete: Per WP:NFF — Mike   Allen   02:58, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
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