Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Dark Discovery


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Evergrey. (non-admin closure) (t &#183; c)  buidhe  08:34, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

The Dark Discovery

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Fails WP:NALBUM. I would redirect to Evergrey, but that article has also been nominated. No objection to redirecting if the latter AfD is closed as "keep". The coverage that I found of this album appears to mostly consist of passing mentions or not in-depth about the album itself, thus not satisfying the "multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent from the musician or ensemble who created it." of criterion #1. There has been no evidence that it charted to pass #2 either, with sverigetopplistan returning no results The SandDoctor  Talk 04:13, 12 October 2020 (UTC); expanded 18:21, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  The SandDoctor  Talk 04:13, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.  The SandDoctor  Talk 04:13, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sweden-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 06:45, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep: Notable album by a notable band. Heiko Gerber (talk) 16:59, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Rationale expanded. I am unopposed to a redirect to Evergrey discography, but as written this type of !vote rationale is best avoided per WP:Verifiability. -- The SandDoctor Talk 18:22, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge all albums to Evergrey discography. The track listings can be condensed into collapsed templates there. BD2412  T 19:13, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep: Per Heiko Gerber. I found some reliable sources which talk about the album:, , , , , , , and . With these, the album is good enough to pass WP:NALBUM.  ASTIG😎  (ICE T • ICE CUBE) 16:00, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
 * sputnikmusic appears to be a user-generated review, thus not helping at all towards notability not RS per WP:ALBUMAVOID
 * metal templeThough the site itself is of potentially questionable notability (also not listed at WP:RSP), this is the first source with any depth whatsoever
 * metal archives is explicitly outlined as a non-reliable source at WikiProject Metal and WP:ALBUMAVOID
 * hardwired magazine does not cover the album in significant depth nor does Hardwired magazine appear a reliable source
 * sonicperspectives Not bad content wise but I am concerned about the reliability of the publication itself given that it sonicperspectives.com does not have an article nor is it listed at WP:RSP
 * hardrockhaven appears to be pure over the top WP:PUFFERY that would not be allowed into a WP:RS review
 * myglobalmind concerns me about reliability of the publication based on myglobalmind.com not being an article and not being listed at WP:RSP.
 * metallized.it is non-trivial in coverage but concerning in reliability since it describes itself as a webzine.
 * thrashcore is non-trivial in coverage but it is a self-described zine, which are WP:SPS
 * Overall, this album appears to run into problems with WP:NOTINHERETED, WP:NRV, and a general lack of non-trivial coverage in multiple reliable publications. -- The SandDoctor Talk 04:47, 14 October 2020 (UTC); updated given new info re WP:ALBUMAVOID 04:14, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Overall, this album appears to run into problems with WP:NOTINHERETED, WP:NRV, and a general lack of non-trivial coverage in multiple reliable publications. -- The SandDoctor Talk 04:47, 14 October 2020 (UTC); updated given new info re WP:ALBUMAVOID 04:14, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Barkeep49 (talk) 00:58, 21 October 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Eddie891 Talk Work 17:29, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Evergrey. The band article was kept at that AfD and there is no reason not to. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 19:13, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Evergrey. Seems like a good option to me. Since this isn't notable on it's own, but still might be a search term worth redirecting. --Adamant1 (talk) 05:20, 7 November 2020 (UTC)


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