Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Dark Eye: Skilltree Saga


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Squeaks by with Weak Keep. Liz Read! Talk! 23:43, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

The Dark Eye: Skilltree Saga

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Sources don't come close to passing WP:PRODUCT. –– FormalDude   talk   11:10, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Video games, Games,  and Germany. –– FormalDude    talk   11:10, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect to The Dark Eye as a WP:ATD. Does not seem to be standalone notable. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 11:28, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep or Merge per WP:ATD to The Dark Eye. Eurogamer is an RS and meets SIGCOV. the other two are routine, non-significant descriptions, so doesn't count towards GNG. Otherwise, searching on Metacritic, Google, News, Books... doesn't find much RS. Still, ref 1 and 2 are RS (despite the latter being a very brief press announcement), so maybe preserving some of the content from the refs through merging would be helpful? I think redirecting is also okay, but would oppose deletion.... After further evaluation, the third ref is debatable. It's mostly just a game description, but with some evaluations (The work of Silent Dreams studio is a low-budget product, so there is nothing to expect from it graphic fireworks. The storyline and exploration of the world are presented here on boards with static, two-dimensional graphics and but it is intended for a younger, casual audience). However, its description is also long enough to be considered significant probably. I don't think it's an RS, but it's listed as so in WP:VGRS, so it's hence a likely RS that is probably SIGCOV. In this case, we have 2 refs counting to GNG, so it's very borderline, but I'm open to either merging or keeping. IMHO, after a couple of days this could be closed as keep. Many thanks! VickKiang (talk) 03:50, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. According to WP:VGRS Eurogamer is RS, and the coverage seems to meet WP:SIGCOV. Same for gamepressure (see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Video_games/Sources). IGN is reliable but the review is video or too short too meet SIGCOV. The article is a substub that needs expansion but I see no compelling reason to redirect this right now. Expansion seems warranted. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here  08:53, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect to The Dark Eye. While the Eurogamer Germany review exists and on the first glance it looks decent in coverage, after reading it in detail, I've realized it offers very little information about the game at all. The whole thing is more of the reviewer's rant about his bad experience, with the only features being mentioned: automatic battle, the boss appearing every ten levels and two pay to win currencies (and of course, none of these were discussed beyond pure mentions). Fails WP:GNG but should be preserved per WP:ATD. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 11:34, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I disagree, as there is all right content from an RS, probably selecively merging the content from the refs would be better. I've read it, and it is quite negative without too much info, but still okay for merging. Many thanks! VickKiang (talk) 22:16, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Can we get firmer consensus to redirect? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Bungle (talk • contribs) 19:15, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Science fiction and fantasy-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 10:52, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Relisting comment: Seems like a stronger move now to Keep, rather than redirect or merge this article. Let's give it a little more time to solidify. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:27, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment I still oppose just a redirect- there may be criticism that the Eurogamer review isn't very informative, but it's still a RS with good info I feel is worth preserving., is there really nothing here that could be briefly mentioned in that article? Many thanks! VickKiang (talk) 07:38, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
 * weak keep per Piotrus, sourcing seems above the bar though not great. Hobit (talk) 02:02, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep Just scrapes by on WP:SIGCOV, as per Piotr. MrsSnoozyTurtle 01:48, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Weak Keep per . I also found this short test in German which does read independent (they're not impressed by the game), although I'm not sure about the reliability of the site. --LordPeterII (talk) 10:05, 14 August 2022 (UTC)


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