Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Day My Bum Went Psycho


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was keep. Daniel.Bryant 06:30, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

The Day My Bum Went Psycho
Not notable. Although this is a published book (2001), and appears to have a sequel, there is no evidence of notability. No prizes were won, no new literary schools were begun, etc. The guide at WP:AFDP indicates that "Books are notable if well-known, and should be listed under the author if not." I note that WorldCat shows that two libraries in the US possess this book, and eight in the UK. Bejnar 05:48, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep US Amazon sales ranking is about 15,000 which is pretty good for an Aussie children's book. (The US editions use "butt" instead of "bum".) Seems to have been widely reviewed, especially in Australia. Looks like a well-selling, pretty popular book, whether award-winning or not. Fan-1967 05:54, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment The authors of these books is Andy Griffiths. His article is not long at all, and any comments about his literary style are appropriate there.  Sales rank of 15,000 is very, very good for an Aussie children's book, but that does not convey notability. Compare a sales rank of 10,000 for The Random House Book of Poetry for Children which hasn't gained notability, it is not even mentioned in the article on Jack Prelutsky its editor.  Bejnar 06:17, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment Your opinion of the author's literary style or ability is quite irrelevant. (Otherwise, surely we would delete Jacqueline Susann.) Significant sales are, in and of themselves, notable. Fan-1967 13:40, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment I did not mention my opinion of his literary style. It is not the relevant consideration. The author's notability is not in question.  Bejnar 20:15, 21 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep I've certainly seen it in stores around the UK, with a title like that you tend to notice it around the place. Seems to be selling reasonably. Ben W Bell   talk  06:12, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep - the book is (or was, at least, it was published a while ago) very successful in Australia and I'd suggest that the average school library would have a copy. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 06:15, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep believe it or not, this book, and the series it is part of, is notable. New York Times Best-seller alone should be enough, maybe you're being fooled by it being a Children's book?  FrozenPurpleCube 06:30, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment I am not suggesting getting rid of the Andy Griffiths article.  I do agree that a best-selling children's author deserves a place in the Wikipedia.  However, I don't think that every book he writes deserves its own article, or maybe even not any particular book.  Read the literature criteria.  Bejnar 06:47, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, I'd have no real problem with making a single article for the series, but I do think that it's better form to have an article for the books seperate from the author, especially when they have more than one series. Call it a style preference, but it just looks better to me.  FrozenPurpleCube 13:21, 20 October 2006 (UTC)


 * What's wrong with just merging this to the author? I see no reason to get rid of it (or a redirect from the title), but where is the advantage of having an article on a children's book apart from the stubby bio of its author? As it seems to be going to be kept, I suggest that the nominator boldly makes the merge after the AFD has closed (you could have done so without the AFD). You can keep the categories at the redirected book title, to make sure it is found more easily. up+land 07:51, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment It may be that the book is more notable than the writer in this case. It's one of those ubiquitous children's books - every niece and nephew has his or her own copy.

Capitalistroadster 00:15, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep Successful book from a major publisher, found in just about every general-interest bookstore, library, etc. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  12:28, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep That book is pretty successful in Australia, we were told to read it in year 7 at school also I know that the library in the shopping centre near me has at least 2 copies. It did win the Children's Choice Award which is included in the article that it won (but without references).
 * Keep for now although I wouldn't oppose a smerge and redirect to Andy Griffiths. According to Griffiths' web page, the book has won several awards - if someone can document those by a reliable source, the page should be fine.  TheronJ 13:21, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep Seems notable enough per Amazon sales ranking. How many copies sold?Gobawoo 16:28, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. This was a best selling childrens book in Australia see . A Google News Archive search shows reliable sources see
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletions.   -- Capitalistroadster 00:15, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep I've heard of the book, but didn't know who the author was, which'd suggest the book may have as much notability as the author. Andjam 00:38, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep Book is extremely well known in Australia.Raffles mk 06:14, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Strong keep, highly popular children's book. I even still have a "The Day My Butt Went Psycho" keychain! --badlydrawnjeff talk 12:53, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge to Andy Griffiths. Lankiveil 12:55, 21 October 2006 (UTC).
 * Strong keep. Well-known Australian children's book. Cnwb 04:26, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. Notable, prize-winning book. Natgoo 09:56, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. Notable, prize-winning book. Natgoo 09:56, 22 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep notable book for children--Golden Wattle talk 10:06, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep -- notable book. - Longhair\talk 10:47, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep notable book in Australia. It was a 2004 bestseller (over 100,000 copies sold in Australia), with sales on par with The Da Vinci Code in that year. Previous versions of the article list some Children's Choice awards the book won, but the current version doesn't. No literary schools founded on the book I'll grant you, but I'm sure this will happen soon - is this really a criterion for notability? --Canley 00:46, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
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