Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Dene


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to Medomsley. Skomorokh 12:55, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

The Dene

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Unlikely that a small council housing estate deserves an article. There are absolutely no references and none of the arther surprising claims in the article are verifiable via Google. Lozleader (talk) 10:40, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. Thryduulf (talk) 11:05, 11 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment: If this is a populated, legally-recognized place, then many believe that it should be considered notable. That view strikes me as over-the-top, but it is popular. —SlamDiego&#8592;T 11:52, 11 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Merge to Medomsley. I agree it's too small to deserve its own article, and it's not a legally-recognised place; it lies in Ebchester and Medomsley ward of Durham unitary authority, and was part of the (recently abolished) Derwentside district council, an unparished area. Medomsley is the nearest village and the only non-list article that links to The Dene at present, so seems the obvious target. The first two paragraphs are probably verifiable (e.g. ). Merging to a larger article is likely to make the material a bit more visible and so more likely to be corrected if erroneous. Qwfp (talk) 12:59, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 * (after edit conflict) Merge and redirect to Medomsley. While I generally agree with the Notability (geography) page, my interpretation is that it should apply only to distinct settlements. Neighbourhoods, etc, should generally be covered on the article about the larger settlement it is in unless there is a significant amount to say such that it would overwhelm the main article. In the case of The Dene it is described (at Medomsley) as being a five-minute walk from that village, this is supported by Google's air photograph which shows a separation of two fields. The OS, Streetmap and ELGIN maps label "The Dene" but do so less prominently than it does "Medomsley" (most at a similar level of importance to the nearby "Medomsley Grange Farm"). Google and Via Michelin do not label it. The only building in the estate that looks to be anything other than a private house from the air photo is this one, which I presume will be a community centre. The only commercial activity I can find in the settlement is a wedding supplier, at "17 The Dene, Medomsley, County Durham". Medomsley itself has a primary school and two pubs. All this makes it seem very unlikely that "The Dene" housing estate has any significant cultural, economic or other notable differences from Medomsley, and one housing development of about 2/3rds the scale of "The Dene" could eliminate any geographical differences as well. Thryduulf (talk) 13:10, 11 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Merge and Redirect to Medomsley. Thryduulf's comments are unassailable. McMarcoP (talk) 13:21, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge as above. Even if the content does qualify as notability, it is very difficult to see how this article can grow beyond its current stub. Chris Neville-Smith (talk) 18:55, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge somewhere. My only query relates to the correct administrative area (for example ancient parish or township), as it is in an unparished area.  It do not know the area enough to say more.  Peterkingiron (talk) 12:28, 13 August 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.