Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Deserter (1912 film)


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The result was Nomination Withdrawn. Lenticel ( talk ) 02:45, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

The Deserter (1912 film)

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Fails WP:GNG. Bbb23 (talk) 18:14, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep Thomas H. Ince was one of the most important figures in early cinema history and the film also stars Francis Ford, again an important figure in early cinema. The film was screened in 2006 as part of a retrospective on Ince at the MoMA, so this passes point 2 of NF ("The film was given a commercial re-release, or screened in a festival, at least five years after initial release.") Difficult to find sources, but not impossible, for a film from one hundred years ago. I'm sure there are press reviews from that time too.  Lugnuts  (talk) 18:59, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment. Seems to me this all goes to the notability of Ince and possibly Ford, but not to the film itself. Also, the screening of the film at a museum exhibition as part of a retrospective on Ince is not really a screening at a festival. I don't see sufficient notability for a separate article, although I do agree that with silent films it's much harder to find sources.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:05, 12 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep. Deleting verified material about an extant Ince film from 1912 can't possibly improve our coverage of silent films. --Arxiloxos (talk) 19:49, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 19:56, 12 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep Per Lugnuts. Edison (talk) 21:55, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. Given that very few productions from the Silent Era exist, I would argue that extant works are automatically notable. Eddie.willers (talk) 23:17, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep: It is at the Library of Congress. Here is a paragraph which is a review that states that it is one of his few surviving films. SL93 (talk) 01:11, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Even with the first reference, it passes "The film was selected for preservation in a national archive.". SL93 (talk) 00:58, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
 * 1912 review snippets. SL93 (talk) 01:20, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Nice work. I'll withdraw the nomination. Anyone who feels comfortable closing the AfD, either as an administrator or as a non-administrative closure, feel free.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:22, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
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