Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Effects of Classroom Design on Children's Test Scores


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was  keep. Well covered in secondary literature. Jayjg (talk) 02:55, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

The Effects of Classroom Design on Children&

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Looks like a student essay and thus original research WhaleyTim (talk) 20:59, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:57, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete: An essay. Joe Chill (talk) 00:59, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep The material just needs wikifying to make it more presentable. Notice that it has inline citations while our article classroom has none at all.  If we were to merge the two we would improve them both.  Deletion would be completely unhelpful and contrary to our editing policy. Note that material of a similar sort is found in sources such as the Encyclopedia of educational research and so its notability is evident. Colonel Warden (talk) 07:24, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Note also that the article was nominated for AFD 18 minutes after its creation. Please see WP:BITE and WP:BEFORE. Colonel Warden (talk) 08:20, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

*Delete per WP:NOR. We are an encyclopedia not a compendium of essays.  Aiken   &#9835;   15:00, 29 April 2010 (UTC) Change to keep now that Colonel Warden has changed the article to something that does not violate policy.  Aiken   &#9835;   19:40, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete- this is an essay consisting of sources cobbled together to present a novel opinion. Reyk  YO!  09:28, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
 * What is that novel opinion? That classroom design has an effect upon learning?  Are you serious?  There are hundreds of scholarly sources for this topic and others have compiled these before us. Colonel Warden (talk) 10:17, 30 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep This is a well known theory going back at least to the 19th century, incorporated in the building of schools in the early 20th century, which is gaining in popularity again. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 11:15, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. This article lacks meta-analytic sources, reliable sources that survey the available literature on the subject and come to conclusions that an editor can cite without dipping into WP:NOR. Xtzou ( Talk ) 18:36, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Articles do not require meta-analytic sources and we have a policy which states that such wooly, perfectionist demands are improper. The general context for deciding upon deletion is that 99% of our articles are of less than good quality and it is our policy to keep them rather than delete them on such grounds.  For example, the main article Classroom has no sources of any kind, let alone meta-analytic ones.
 * Anyhow, provision of such sources is a trivial exercise which only takes a minute. Here are three:
 * Hard facts on smart classroom design
 * Classroom design: teacher's resource book
 * ''Classroom design: accomodating for a variety of learning needs


 * Colonel Warden (talk) 19:24, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
 * While agreeing that meta-analytic sources arent mandatory, sources already present like this one from University of Georgia is in fact a meta - study. I implore any deletionists to please read the abstract so they can see the extensive reasearch done within this highly noteable and important field. FeydHuxtable (talk)


 * Keep The article appears to be well enough sourced at this point to establish the subject's notability. Does need work, but I think that's not a criterion for deletion. -- Nuujinn (talk) 13:44, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep The Colonels improvements have considerably reduced the ammount of OR. Very worthy and usefull article, for example it might help teachers create a good learning environment if for what ever reason they have to set up an ad hoc classroom. FeydHuxtable (talk) 14:06, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep A quick Google book search reveals many books published on this.  It thus clearly a notable topic.  You could probably find some results in Google news as well, but the book results clearly establish notability on their own.  Read through the summaries of those that appear on the first page of results.   D r e a m Focus  07:15, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. Appears to be notable per WP:GNG. Could do with having some of the remaining OR removed, but that's not a cause to delete. Alzarian16 (talk) 14:47, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.