Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Elephant in the Room (film)


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The result was delete. Black Kite (talk) 20:39, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

The Elephant in the Room (film)

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Not close to meeting NFILM/GNG. Collection of deadlinks and film festival listings, and this on trident media which I'm not sure about its RSness. Not much more in BEFORE. Icewhiz (talk) 13:02, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment: I haven't made a choice either way, but I will say that the article is definitely very WP:PUFFY and I'm concerned that the article relies so heavily on the Trident Media source. A look into the site shows that it's run by the Hertfordshire Students’ Union, so it wouldn't be seen as a RS on here. ReaderofthePack (｡◕‿◕｡)  14:33, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete film is mentioned at Tariq Chow, and that is sufficient for a film that I can't source despite diligent searching with a lot of keywords.  I might have suggested a REDIRECT, if not for the fact that we have 2 pages on films with similar titles, and the title "Elephant in the Room" turns out to be used by an amazing array of books, TV specials, etc.E.M.Gregory (talk) 18:28, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Redirect to the director Tariq Chow with R from film. Also, some comments:First, "deadlinks" by themselves are not a valid reason for deletion, no more so than "I couldn't find the book at my library and it's not freely available online". If URLs are currently dead or broken, the content can often be retrieved by Wayback Machine, WebCite, or other internet archiving resources. That said, the fact that the most-cited source in the article is a student newspaper (Trident Media is the home of print, radio and TV at Hertfordshire Students’ Union. We’re run and led by the students at the University of Hertfordshire...) doesn't speak much to the independent notability of this film. Secondly, there being a similarly named article already, and countless non-notable elements with the same name in the Google-verse, are not any policy-based grounds for deletion. We have disambiguation terms for such instances. --Animalparty! (talk) 23:49, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
 * You are correct about deadlinks (certainly a deadlink to the BBC would merit investigation), and I should have been more specific. The deadlinks here are - http://www.elefilm.eu/web/about.html, http://elefilm.eu/web/home.html (which seem to be probably a website set up to promote the film) and to http://www.endcap.eu/the-elephant-in-the-room-solitary-elephants-revealed/ (which seems to be an activist organization). There's not much there that merits investigation. Icewhiz (talk) 07:56, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kpg  jhp  jm  01:26, 24 September 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kpg  jhp  jm  01:59, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
 * The sourcing for this short film is all or almost all PRIMARY. The University of Hertfordshire is listed as the "production company," for this short film, and the University of Hertfordshire the gives the film a prize in a competition.  "Trident Media" turns out to be "Hertfordshire Students' Union's student media group".  Film did get a post on the website of Conservation Action, but the rest of the sources are reposting host sites like Upworthy, and straight self-PROMO like "film pill" .E.M.Gregory (talk) 11:57, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. No valid redirect target. w umbolo   ^^^  10:07, 8 October 2018 (UTC)


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