Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Empty Box and the Zeroth Maria


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Move back to user space. There is unanimous consensus that this should not exist in main article space, but opinion is split on delete vs. userfy. makes a reasonable point that the original author has been banned from editing on this topic, so it's kind of pointless, but it's also harmless. In general, if there's a reasonable alternative to deletion, it's usually worth taking, so that's what I'm going to do. -- RoySmith (talk) 20:55, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

PS: also removing Hakomari and Utsuro no Hako to Zero no Maria, which are both redirects pointing here. -- RoySmith (talk) 21:08, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

The Empty Box and the Zeroth Maria

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This article does not appear to satisfy WP:GNG or WP:BK for notability, so I'm nominating it for deletion. Until recently, this article had been in userspace and was moved by a separate editor to mainspace after the original author left Wikipedia. The Japanese Wikipedia article only cites a single primary source, so it doesn't help in satisfying notability. A cursory Google search of the titles The Empty Box and the Zeroth Maria and Utsuro no Hako to Zero no Maria largely reveal fansites and blogs discussing the series. The original title 空ろの箱と零のマリア mainly shows retail websites and more blogs, although there was this entry on a website with unconfirmed reliability, and therefore I don't believe would be enough to establish notability. Therefore, based on the lack of reliable sources, and the fact that the article in its current state is mainly in-universe information with a few cites from Amazon for the release dates, I believe it should be deleted. Or it could also just be moved back to userspace.  十  八  21:31, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions.--  十  八  21:42, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions.--  十  八  21:42, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * I have exported the full history to the Manga Wikia. http://manga.wikia.com/wiki/The_Empty_Box_and_the_Zeroth_Maria  D r e a m Focus  14:49, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Move back to Lucia's userspace. Lucia is still around, anyways I feel that it should be moved back to her userspace. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 19:18, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 00:15, 6 January 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  B E C K Y S A Y L E S  00:06, 14 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete. Not seeing any third-party sourcing or in-depth coverage to actually demonstrate notability. --DAJF (talk) 00:23, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Move back to userspace as per Knowledgekid87; the article was moved from userspace to mainspace by another user without the original user's consent, and potentially in an unfinished state. This source was the only source I was able to find, so the article shouldn't be kept in its current state. Satellizer   (´ ･ ω ･ `)  11:32, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Move back to original creators userspace per Satellizer and Knowledgekid. SephyTheThird (talk) 22:22, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete The subject isn't notable which means the article will never be ready for publication, no matter how much work is put into it. Moving it back to the original author's userspace is thus pointless, especially since his/her indefinite topic ban would prevent him/her from editing it. Iaritmioawp (talk) 18:43, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.