Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Entertainer of Love


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Cirt (talk) 01:46, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

The Entertainer of Love

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This article about a planned reality television show contains no substantial information beyond links to a casting call. It should be deleted as WP:CRYSTAL until a verifiable airdate is published by a reliable source, at which point, it could be re-created. Plastikspork (talk) 05:57, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: See For the Love of Ray J (season 2) and Real Chance of Love (season 2) which are also up for deletion. Plastikspork (talk) 06:00, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions.  -- TexasAndroid (talk) 15:53, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is about consensus right? Well the consensus on those show has been to keep the pages until now. The Megan Wants a Millionaire page has been here since the casting call has been issued and nobody complained. Same for Daisy of Love. I don't get the point of deleting now that the page has been created. That would just lead to two wastes of time (one when this page was created and one when it'll be recreated). The show will air eventually ad the show will need its page then, so why not keep the page. For those reasons I'm voting keep.--Whadaheck (talk) 17:55, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - So which is it? Is it The Entertainer (TV show) or The Entertainer of Love? It seems like there are speculation issues, checking the page move history. If you would like, I can point you to examples where these pages were deleted. I would say that NFF for films is a good criteria if you want to set a precedent. Once a premiere date has been confirmed by a reliable source, then it would seem that it fails to be WP:CRYSTAL. Thanks. Plastikspork (talk) 04:06, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * At first it was called "The Entertainer Of Love" but a later blog stated only "The Entertainer" (here: http://blog.vh1.com/2009-06-29/more-sober-house-fit-club-pepa-and-chilli-on-the-way-from-vh1). It is not speculation, it is name shifting, like Trophy Wife became Make Me Your Trophy Wife and then Megan Wants a Millionaire.--Whadaheck (talk) 13:07, 16 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep: I'm voting keep as well, because I agree that this page should be kept. It's a complete waste of time if it's just going to be recreated again. I say leave it on here, it's not doing any harm at all. WikiMaster500 (talk) 00:09, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment: See WP:NOHARM and WP:OTHERSTUFF and WP:INHERITED and WP:LOSE and WP:NOTAGAIN. Thanks. Plastikspork (talk) 04:06, 30 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment: I don't think sometime in 2010 from a blog a reliable premiere date. Plastikspork (talk) 04:11, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:55, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ( X! ·  talk )  · @054  · 00:17, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. WP:CRYSTAL. Niteshift36 (talk) 06:42, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete. WP:CRYSTAL, noting that the two references are blogs and are so presumed to be not sufficiently reliable.  Userfy on request for WikiMaster500 or any other editor, but this should not be in mainspace until it has independent reliable (not blog) third party sources.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 09:52, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
 * How are official blogs from the network reporting press releases from said network not reliable?--Whadaheck (talk) 13:07, 16 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Things titled “blog” tend not to be considered serious. In this case, the blog postings are non-independent, and so the entry can be considered promotional.  A more specific guideline is WP:NFF  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 13:44, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.