Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Equity Project


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus to delete. Sources provided by keep arguments, some of which are already on the article, are very strong. Spam concerns in this case are not enough to require deletion. lifebaka++ 13:21, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

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not a notable educational institution. Does not belong in the Wikipedia — Drjohnphd1965 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Delete because it is a future thing and not really notable anyway. Someone also seems to have nominated it for CSD G11; I think I more or less agree.  --Falcon Darkstar Kirtaran (talk) 05:42, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak delete- prolly not CSD11 material, there is one substantial source but I'd be looking for more on a future project. No prejudice on recreation though, and I'd be happy to be talked into changing my position if more material surfaces. Reyk  YO!  05:48, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment I've declined the G11 speedy. -- jonny - m t  06:50, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep.
 * NYT substantial article (2 pages):.
 * Madville Times/Keloland TV (South Dakota news organization) substantial article (1 page):
 * Huffington Post (brief mention):
 * education.com magazine substantial article (4 pages): AfD hero (talk) 17:25, 7 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep. Though I did pull some stuff from their site, those were mostly specific details. A lot of other stuff came from the official charter submission that was reviewed, and from the NY Times article. Also, in regards to it being a "future thing" - this is not "unverifiable speculation" or original research, and the event is almost certain to take place. Thus, it at least cannot be considered a Crystal Ball article. And more info can be added from those sources above to make it better... I stated on the talk page that I knew it could use improvement. JDbruin (talk) 19:21, 7 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete because this is a future project. Keep in mind that the NYT is also a local newspaper The Equity Project is based in New York. KarenLina (talk) 19:25, 7 August 2008 (UTC) — KarenLina (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * New York Times may also be a local paper, but that doesn't make it an unreliable source. NYT, local or not, fits the 'nutshell description' of Reliable Sources. And while the project is based in New York, it is a social experiment of sorts, which can have impact outside that area.JDbruin (talk) 18:22, 8 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:Crystal Ball and failure to assert notability.Nrswanson (talk) 05:02, 12 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment. The purpose of WP:Crystal is to prevent original research, editor speculation, and unverified information. None of these are an issue here. When CRYSTAL was written, situations such as this were considered, which is why WP:Cball point 1 explicitly allows future events which are notable, in development, almost certain to occur, and sourced. AfD hero (talk) 10:11, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment.* True, but the notability of schools in itself has been a hotly debated topic on wikipedia with many school pages being deleted. Those that have been kept have had to work hard at establishing notability. In this case, this school has yet to even open which really makes it a non-notable institution.Nrswanson (talk) 16:37, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. If I recall correctly the school debate is focused around generic public schools that lack substantial coverage in secondary sources - the question there is, lacking all the usual means of establishing notability, is simply being a school enough? AfD hero (talk) 18:43, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. The subject of this article should be considered as more than just a random school; as I stated above, there is a social experiment aspect of this as well. If we look at this with the approach that it is an upcoming social experiment, does the same claim of non-notability hold? And, if we still consider it a school, note that it also has more established notability than many of the New York City high schools. JDbruin (talk) 23:14, 12 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep - the charter school project has received substantive coverage. In addition to the ones mentioned above, the Houston Chronicle has written about it (based on the original NYT article), as well as a followup article in The New York Times on March 14. However, there have been a number of other "Equity Projects" that are unrelated to this one (see:, ) so it may need to have a disamb page.-HidariMigi (talk) 00:03, 13 August 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.