Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Expanse: A Telltale Series


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Most opinions here are based in policy, and this is clearly a borderline situation, so a lack of consensus isn't surprising. My personal recommendation, independent of the result here, is to write a summary-style section at the parent article, and see if all relevant material can be accommodated there; and if so, to propose a merge. Vanamonde (Talk) 22:52, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

The Expanse: A Telltale Series

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Another contested redirect. Likely a case of WP:TOOSOON, but not enough in-depth coverage to meet WP:GNG.  Onel 5969  TT me 19:10, 1 April 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 00:41, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 20:25, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Weak keep Numerous sources and at least one instance of WP:SIGCOV here as well as an extremely high likelihood it will be reviewed in numerous major gaming outlets upon release means it is almost certainly notable with little room for doubt. While one could argue about technicalities, Wikipedia is not a bureaucracy. If the game somehow gets cancelled with little fanfare, I have no objection to a merge at that point, but right now there is no reason for an article not to exist. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 21:25, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Weak keep per Zxcvbnm. It's easy to find sources. And even if the WP:SIGCOV is debatable, the game is set for the next quarter. I see this being resolved with additional coverage in a matter of weeks or months. Shooterwalker (talk) 15:16, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. It has enough coverage, though the article is yet underdeveloped. If it proves to not be very notable in the long run, we can have this discussion again. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 02:42, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Sources in the article and BEFORE show all promo. Nothing that meets IS RS with SIGCOV. As indicated above this pre-release promoish review is the only thing that comes close, but it is still just a single iffy source for N. Other two Keeps cite no sources, just state opinions. Maybe this is TOOSOON, but there are not sources supporting N.  // Timothy :: talk  05:20, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Not sure how "delete" could even be an option here at all. Even if not kept, The Expanse (novel series) or The Expanse (TV series) are obvious merge targets per WP:ATD. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 06:11, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Reply the option to redirect has been rejected twice, , "Although they are related, the TV series and the video game are not the same". Merge will not work because there is no sourced information to merge, just a promo announcement. Once it actually exists beyond promo annoucements, maybe there will sourced material to add to the suggested target. Merging content about things that don't exist yet and only have promo refs would degrade the quality of any target. Video games even those in development are often canceled.  // Timothy :: talk  07:51, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
 * If it's the result of WP:CONSENSUS, a redirect cannot be rejected. Not without being disruptive and potentially being blocked at least. Single users can't override consensus. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 12:52, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect to The Expanse (TV series). It's currently a WP:TOOSOON situation, but it would be worthwhile having the edit history available if/when it becomes notable in a few months time. MrsSnoozyTurtle 06:39, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Coin toss between Weak draftify until release/Weak redirect per SnoozyTurtle. --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 23:38, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26  (spin me / revolutions) 02:52, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Draftify, clearly too soon but likely to be notable when more sources are available closer to release. Axem Titanium (talk) 18:08, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep per Zxcvbnm. On the verge of saying draftify, but I'd argue that the PC Gamer source he cited, this Games Radar piece, and this Polygon piece that's already in the article make it meet WP:THREE. If keep doesn't meet the threshold here, I'd recommend draftify as an ATD.  Nomader  ( talk ) 17:06, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect to The Expanse (TV series) SWinxy (talk) 20:24, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Relisting comment: Final relist. It's clear this article won't be deleted but it's a grab-bag of solutions proposed here. It would be nice for a closer to see opinion focus on one option rather than closing this as No Consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 05:33, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect to existing section The Expanse (TV series). It ostensibly has significant coverage in multiple reliable, independent sources but said coverage is weak overall. Since a parent section exists, it's a good candidate for summary style expansion.  czar  21:21, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Draftify per WP:TOOSOON. QuicoleJR (talk) 18:51, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect to The Expanse (TV series). Redirecting to the parent article is a more useful solution than sending to draftspace, in my opinion. CycloneYoris talk! 11:10, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Redirect per CycloneYoris. Better to have things in the mainspace when we can, where it's more likely to be improved as more coverage develops. Keep in mind there's nothing wrong having a draft going concurrently too as people prepare to eventually spin it out. Sergecross73   msg me  18:25, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Weak keep per Zxcvbnm. Coverage in PCGamer seems solid. Second choice, redirect and merge, given how stubby this is. Certainly deletion is not a good idea. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 04:20, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Weak keep, not significantly covered in as many sources as I'd like but doubtlessly it will be, once it releases. Unless it gets cancelled. Merko (talk) 19:15, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect to The Expanse (TV series). I agree with Merko above that it will almost certainly be covered by many sources when it's released. WP:CRYSTAL and all that. Dylnuge  (Talk • Edits) 21:42, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep - deleting the page now only to create a new one in a few months seems pointless to me, especially since it looks like the game will be released before consensus is reached on this issue. PraiseVivec (talk) 23:53, 28 April 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.