Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Fakir (2016 film)


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The result was redirect to Marjane Satrapi. Also applies to all title variants. Can be recreated at whatever may be the correct title once it's independently notable.  Sandstein  08:37, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

The Fakir (2016 film)

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Future film, speculative (to the extent that the article's creator has already changed the title of the film as presented in the article). See WP:NFF. —Largo Plazo (talk) 14:54, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep Already the movie has been covered by Entertainment Weekly and Variety . I think this would satisfy notability and reliable sources. I'll go ahead and add these to the page. RickinBaltimore (talk) 15:06, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. North America1000 00:47, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
 * And, yet, WP:NFF. "Films that have not been confirmed by reliable sources to have commenced principal photography should not have their own articles, as budget issues, scripting issues and casting issues can interfere with a project well ahead of its intended filming date. The assumption should also not be made that because a film is likely to be a high-profile release it will be immune to setbacks—there is no "sure thing" production." I don't see any exceptions listed. It's written very much like it's an absolute that's meant to override the usual approach, for a reason that's explicitly stated.
 * To me, this makes perfectly good sense. How many articles should Wikipedia have that eventually take the form, "X was a film that 15 years ago a bunch of people conceived of that would have been produced by Steven Spielberg and would have been directed by Alfonso Cuarón and would have starred Anne Hathaway and Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise and Scarlett Johansson (assuming that, even if the film did happen, none of those celebrities backed out, in which case this information would be wrong anyway) except that funding was diverted to another project and then everyone lost interest and it never happened so we have no actual information to give you about it except the preceding string of hypotheticals." The milestone that WP:NFF providesprincipal photographyis basically telling us that, up to that point, all the buzz about a film is a rumor. Wikipedia isn't a rumor sheet. And, looking at things from the other end, there is no pressing need to have an article here now rather than waiting for principal photography. —Largo Plazo (talk) 01:23, 29 January 2016 (UTC)


 * actual sourcable title:  and per WP:INDAFD: "The Extraordinary Journey of the Fakir" "Marjane Satrapi" "Dhanush"


 * Redirect for now to director Marjane Satrapi per my analysis: According to unreliable IMDB, the proposed title is The Extraordinary Journey of the Fakir, so the article is mis-named. And sources confirming THAT title Bollywood Hungama, Indian Express, Variety, Entertainment Weekly, and many others, give us enough coverage that the article can "for now" be redirected  to a sourced mention in the director's article, and resurrected once WP:NFF (paragraph 3) is met.  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 17:19, 29 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Neutral; new reference added, more reliable sources are available online Markonal (talk) 21:54, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * — Markonal (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Redirect to the director's article until principal photography begins, as per above. We have sources, but we're still in WP:CRYSTAL territory. Obviously, the correct film title should be redirected. UltraExactZZ Said~ Did 17:28, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Redirect at best for now with this current article still seeming questionable. SwisterTwister   talk  03:17, 4 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment about redirecting The article's author has now moved the article to a title with "2017" instead of "2016". He previously changed the title of the film. I'd agree with the motions to redirect if we had any reason to believe that "The Fakir" is actually the title of the film and knew in what year it's going to be released. There isn't much sense in redirecting either The Fakir (2016 film) or The Fakir (2017 film) to Marjane Satrapi when the film, as far as we know, is going to be called "That Crazy Fakir" or "Tea for Two" or "War and Peace and Zombies" and is going to be released in 2018 or 2019. —Largo Plazo (talk) 11:46, 4 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Move over The Extraordinary Journey of the Fakir (which currently is a double redirect to the 2016 page), and then redirect to the director Marjane Satrapi. This should preserve the content in the right place for when it can be un-redirected. ansh 666 07:14, 5 February 2016 (UTC)


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