Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Fear (2015 film)


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The result was keep. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  03:52, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

The Fear (2015 film)

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Fails WP:NFILM. It has not received significant coverage in a third party source, it hasn't been widely distributed, it's not historically notable, it received no awards, and it's not being taught anywhere as far as I know. Google searches turn up nothing of value. The IMDB link is a database which is user contributed. The Variety link literally just lists the film by name, and the Screen Daily link barely touches on this particular film. Non notable cast and director. The Undead Never Die (talk) 09:45, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep The nom believes that redlinks equal non-notable, which is incorrect. The film has been selected to be screened at the Toronto Film Festival, one of the biggest festivals on the planet. I suggested the nom should read WP:BEFORE, which they chose to ignore. In seconds I found this, this, this and this lengthy review.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 09:49, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment Source 1 is a IMDB style database source. It adds nothing to this. Source 2 is a "Hey, watch this trailer" source, and then it goes on to say when the release date will be. It also adds nothing to this discussion as it just gives people a heads up that this film is coming out. It's not a review. The 3rd is the same as the 1st. The "lengthy" article ends with no rating; and it only amounts to 1 review. That doesn't qualify as substantial third party coverage. The Undead Never Die (talk) 10:02, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes it does. It's a lenghty review of the film, clearly passing WP:GNG.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 10:03, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
 * From GNG, "We require multiple sources so that we can write a reasonably balanced article that complies with Wikipedia:Neutral point of view, rather than representing only one author's point of view." So no, it does not clearly pass anything. The Undead Never Die (talk) 10:08, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
 * More and more. Burn.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 10:21, 23 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep, examples of other reviews, , , , . As a side note, films which are screened in Cannes, Venice, Berlin, Toronto, Sundance, Locarno and in other very notable festivals are generally widely reviewed, both in mainstream and more specific press. For an effective WP:BEFORE, in case of non-English films, it is also important to search for their original language title. Cavarrone 17:14, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Cavarrone  09:45, 25 August 2015 (UTC)


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 * Keep per easily meeting WP:NF and speedy close per 1) poor WP:BEFORE which missed significant coverage and 2) further and apparent misunderstanding of WP:NF and WP:NONENG. In his unintended error, the nom apparently expects a brand new film to be judged by attributes untended only to encourage diligence research for older films. A brand new film is NOT expected to have attributes which might be expected of something that has been out for years or decade. Being brand new, it need not be "widely distributed" or "historically notable", and only now making it through festivals it need not have (yet) "received awards" and, being brand new it is foolish to expect it would be part of any educational syllabus.  My thanks to  for sharing the non-English sources perfectly fine for a non-English film.  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 23:21, 25 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Note to anyone wishing to close: The brand new article which was perhaps impatiently sent to AFD was stubby, yes... but under WP:BEFORE and WP:Editing policy it was easy to bring up to C-Class. I remind that Wikipedia is a work in progress... and while AFD is not intended to force cleanup,  we do not toss what is improvable. Anyone who wishes to, will find no one arguing with an early close under WP:OUTCOMES.  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 04:45, 26 August 2015 (UTC)


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