Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Fight for Bala


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete per WP:SNOW. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  13:59, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

The Fight for Bala

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This article (a movie by a kid named Jonah Bryson) is part of a series of articles that are the result of shameless and persistent self-promotion. It was created by MrBean65, who has acknowledged at Sockpuppet investigations/Jonah Bryson of being User:Jonah Bryson and User:Jonah.bryson2. Under a slightly different title, this article has already been deleted at AFD once (see The Fight For Bala (film) and Articles for deletion/The Fight For Bala (film)). It has also been speedy deleted at the title with different capitalization The Fight For Bala.

Other related articles include:
 * 1) Jonah Bryson - salted, speedy deleted five times, deleted at AFD once (Articles for deletion/Jonah Bryson), and currently headed for deletion a second time, Articles for deletion/Jonah Bryson (2nd nomination)
 * 2) Jonah Bryson (filmmaker) - deleted per Articles for deletion/Jonah Bryson (filmmaker)
 * 3) Jonah Bryson (Filmmaker & Musician) - speedy deleted, salted
 * 4) A Sweet Spot in Time - deleted at AFD and then salted, Articles for deletion/A Sweet Spot in Time
 * 5) A Sweet Spot in Time (film) - speedy deleted twice, salted

It is very clear after all this that the consensus is these articles don't meet notability criteria for inclusion in Wikipedia. Jonah Bryson's persistent attempts to get around these deletions through repeated recreation with different titles indicates this user has no intention of abiding by that consensus. This article should be deleted and salted. I would recommend to the closing admin that MrBean65 be indefinitely blocked as well because it is clear he has no intention here on Wikipedia but to promote himself (WP:NOTHERE). Deli nk (talk) 13:29, 30 March 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete. Lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. duffbeerforme (talk) 11:28, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Onel 5969  TT me 18:56, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.   CAPTAIN RAJU  (✉)   19:26, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions.   CAPTAIN RAJU  (✉)   19:27, 6 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete. Wikipedia is not a free publicity platform on which filmmakers are entitled to create articles about themselves or their films just because they exist — certain specific standards of notability and sourceability have to be attained for an article to become earned, and even when those things have been attained the article still can't be created by someone with a direct conflict of interest. Of the two sources here that could even start to build a case for the film's notability, Bryson himself was the author of one of them and his co-director Rob Stewart (yes, that Rob Stewart...RIP) was the author of the other — which makes them both primary sources, not notability-conferring ones. There's just no properly sourced evidence of notability per WP:NFILM here, and it is not automatically entitled to an article just because it exists. Bearcat (talk) 19:52, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment: I'm going to go ahead and close this as a delete. There's nothing in this version of the article that would overcome the issues at the last AfD, especially as the sourcing in this version is comprised of primary sources. There's not a WP:SNOW chance that this would survive if left for another week. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  13:58, 12 April 2017 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.